Is it any more ridiculous than patenting making cast metal treestands? (neither are ridiculous) It's clearly a unique and attractive step forward or we wouldn't be having this discussion.Isn’t LWCG using water jet and Dan using machining. Either way a patent on either to make a tree stand would be kind of ridiculous IMO. If Dan’s stands are like his sticks they’ll be too hard to get anyway. I’m still guessing that LWCG or LW might be able to use the cut outs for their cast products and that makes it much more viable. I could be wrong though.