Thank you for everyone's input.
I see you're a NY hunter, so am I! How do their clothes hold up against Multiflora rose and the Briers (they ripped my last set of camo)? Is badlands Quiet in the cold (i have seen some reviews say it makes more noise than usual?) I assume you use Approach FX because we have a lot of hardwoods.
what products do you use other than the base layer and the pack? I look at the Calor or the Pyre (I think it may be too hot for me, I don't do all day sits very often at all) then venture jackets looks good too...
I just want something that will keep me dry, stop the wind, and hold up through the thorns because I have a lot where I hunt. I can layer under to keep warm. I also bow hunt a ton so I need the mobility and quiet fabric.
p.s.
If I can find something I like for deer, I may get some of their products for turkey hunting, most of the stuff I have is very faded.