I think there are pros and cons to each. I think that one sticking is a fad; however, not all fads are trash. A fad to me is something that gets overly popularized and usually carries a blind trust or allegiance to the topic or item regardless of merit. In this case the utility of the one stick is hard to refute; therefore, regardless of the fad it is still a reputable climbing system.
I think there are pros and cons to each. I think that one sticking is a fad; however, not all fads are trash. A fad to me is something that gets overly popularized and usually carries a blind trust or allegiance to the topic or item regardless of merit. In this case the utility of the one stick is hard to refute; therefore, regardless of the fad it is still a reputable climbing system.
“Easier” can often times be based on someone’s skill, experience, and opinion. It becomes very hard to distinguish from skill set or opinion that makes something easier versus an actual tangible objective reason that something is easier. A short example would be writing in cursive vs. print. If you only ever wrote in print and were asked to write in cursive you would say that it’s easier to write in print; however, if you were proficient both in cursive and print you could claim that they were both easy. Likewise, I think it’s hard to claim that one is “easier” then the other and I think it would be better to weigh the specific pros and cons of each. Assuming the user has spent equal time with each method, being skilled in and proficient in each, there is no telling which one the user would think is “easier”, but they would likely be able to tell us what benefits or inefficiencies each had.
I am assuming that for both methods you would rappel down so in that case they are equal. I would also dare say that if you’re proficient in each you could climb the tree at nearly the same rate so I would say in this respect they are equal as well. I would also be inclined to look at them as a system instead of an individual climbing method; however, to mitigate introducing more variables in the comparison I’ll stick to each only as a climbing method. The 2TC is clearly more compact and less weight. Assuming that for each climbing method you are using the same rope (to be apple to apples) then it is easy to see that one sticking is bulkier and heavier due to the stick itself. The 2TC requires more moves. Using a reasonable aider, a onesticking user can ascend to 20’ in as less as 4 moves. None of these things would scream easier, rather it would trigger me to choose based on preferences for weight, bulk, and number of move to hunting height.
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Technically they are the same style of climbing the only thing that’s different is what you use to hold your weight as you progress your too tether. For that reason I would say they equal in difficulty if that’s what you’re asking.
I don’t think they’re both great. I do think they’re are both easy. I had a TL: DR in there for ya.
I’m just messing with you man, but you also could’ve just said “they’re both great”.
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the original post is asuming an easyer 2 teather system emerged.im just asuming one will.loved the info .and grammerI think there are pros and cons to each. I think that one sticking is a fad; however, not all fads are trash. A fad to me is something that gets overly popularized and usually carries a blind trust or allegiance to the topic or item regardless of merit. In this case the utility of the one stick is hard to refute; therefore, regardless of the fad it is still a reputable climbing system.
“Easier” can often times be based on someone’s skill, experience, and opinion. It becomes very hard to distinguish from skill set or opinion that makes something easier versus an actual tangible objective reason that something is easier. A short example would be writing in cursive vs. print. If you only ever wrote in print and were asked to write in cursive you would say that it’s easier to write in print; however, if you were proficient both in cursive and print you could claim that they were both easy. Likewise, I think it’s hard to claim that one is “easier” then the other and I think it would be better to weigh the specific pros and cons of each. Assuming the user has spent equal time with each method, being skilled in and proficient in each, there is no telling which one the user would think is “easier”, but they would likely be able to tell us what benefits or inefficiencies each had.
I am assuming that for both methods you would rappel down so in that case they are equal. I would also dare say that if you’re proficient in each you could climb the tree at nearly the same rate so I would say in this respect they are equal as well. I would also be inclined to look at them as a system instead of an individual climbing method; however, to mitigate introducing more variables in the comparison I’ll stick to each only as a climbing method. The 2TC is clearly more compact and less weight. Assuming that for each climbing method you are using the same rope (to be apple to apples) then it is easy to see that one sticking is bulkier and heavier due to the stick itself. The 2TC requires more moves. Using a reasonable aider, a onesticking user can ascend to 20’ in as less as 4 moves. None of these things would scream easier, rather it would trigger me to choose based on preferences for weight, bulk, and number of move to hunting height.
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Technically they are the same style of climbing the only thing that’s different is what you use to hold your weight as you progress your too tether. For that reason I would say they equal in difficulty if that’s what you’re asking.
Are you asking would people leave one sticking if a new and easier 2TC method emerged? So you’re not saying the current 2TC method as we currently know it?
not tryin to make excusess.........buuuuuut.......i was a homeless gutterpunk graffiti writer.spelled wrong on purpose.and only punctuation was flairs arrowows stars ziggzags and curls.some dashess and dots.even when people love something i say they hate me for my punctuation.even worse if they can see my face
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zacly....i dont know what tl dr is.theres alot of people one sticking for a reason.im asumeing that same reassoning would lead to a 2 teathr system that was even simpler .its just an asumption.i firmly beleave both good and bad argumens over all beniffit the progress as a sport.how many people still use the same sytem they started with.none just an asumption.
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The other thing I like about that is you can go back down and come back up in the evening if you wanna leave it set up. It also makes it easier to go around limbs. Those things are more difficult one sticking.I have been one sticking the past few months seeing if it’s something I’ll use this year. I wasn’t going more than 3 moves ever on more than a dozen trees so I have since invested in 3 extra light sticks and a DIY versa aider. I will actually swap out the versa aider for a knaider swaider. The beauty of this system is that I am still rappelling down on 30’ of 9mm/mad rock. It really is an awesome system. For me it’s more comfortable to make my 2 moves off the ground standing on a stick than hanging from the tether. I still think one sticking is a great option for a lot of people.
Here’s an example of what I am talking about. I wrote XOP sticks but these are really Frankenstein sticks made from lone wolf/xop/ewo doublesteps. I am swapping out those xop tubes with feather lights when they come in and they will be roughly 19oz/stick on paper. It’s actually faster for me than one sticking as well:
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