…Don’t feel bad for Florida… they have some of the if not THE best fishing… some fun to chase turkeys….surprisingly good duck hunting too… 795k people per buck…ouch…. im sure they don’t sell too many out of state tagsWell, at least Florida has hogs to hunt...
Every state I've looked at is the same. Take the soil map, overlay the light pollution map, and the areas where the people are scarce and the dirt is rich are the 80/20 counties. As in 20% or less acres are accounting for 80% or more of the big bucks.
An additional useful analysis in this regard would be taking or identifying how much of that 20% is on public hunting ground.
Not hard to do. Find the good County. Find out if the soil map indicates whether all or just some of that county has the good dirt. Then do a little digging to see if there is public land in that county or part of that county.
Lol well to back up your theory, there’s about 3-4 counties in the whole state of MS that are recording “most” of those P&Y bucks. So I would agree with what you’re saying here, I travel 3-4 hours in state just to get to better hunting ground.
Shhh!
Just gotta say, I grew up hunting public and private just down the road from @Nutterbuster and his comments about the Midwest are correct. I moved to Wisconsin last year. Here I’ve hunted almost exclusively on public about 20 minutes from a large population center (read high pressure) and the deer hunting here has been better than the best private lands in the Deep South.Let me see if I can get this right.
Population is human population and based on USDA 2019 population estimation. Square mileage is also based on current USDA info. P&Y numbers all obviously pulled from their database. The P&Y number reflects every typical whitetail recorded in that state from last year back to 1908. The mean, median, and mode are all based on the most recent 100 animals harvested in each state except in cases where there were less than 100 deer (looking at you, Vermont). In that case I used all of them. I didn't calculate those figures based on the full data set because holy-crap-are-you-kidding-me-that's-a-lot-of-deer-Wisconsin.
Saddlehunter P^0Y Spreadsheet.xlsx
drive.google.com
Feel free to download and share and whatever for free*.
*by free I mean you will all pay by enduring me pointing out to every Infalt nut dangler that he lives in a state where a P&Y typical has been harvested for every 5 square miles of land, and just general midwest bias smashing in general. You'll also owe me one "wonder why THP never came back to Alabama" comment per times the spreadsheet is viewed.
Also, everybody please keep @Vtbow and his compatriots in Vermont in your prayers. They're fighting the good fight up there. We stan with the Florida boys too. Indiana, Wisconsin, and Illinois members feel free to never talk about how hard deer hunting is to anybody ever again.
Why did I do this? Because I had 2 hours to spare and I've done county-by-county analysis for my state and a few others so this wasn't that hard and I've never seen it before.
In all seriousness, hope it's interesting and useful. Feel free to let me know if there's something else that might can be added to it to make it more valuable. I withhold the right to say bugger off, but if it's interesting and useful to me too it'll probably happen.
IA is almost the ideal but now they know it and they are still managing their huge bucks properly and hiking up license fees and limiting permits to keep the resource a hot commodity. Can't blame them. Wish I was a resident. I don't even consider it as everything I've heard its very hard to get an out of state tag there anyway. OTC, low population, low hunter density, reasonable PY entries and then soil health are reasonable macro parameters to consider. Drilling down to a more micro perspective... the four "R's are what to look for, Roads, Rivers, Ridges, Rows (of crops, diversion ditches, sloughs, two tracks etc. and their convergence the "walls" if you will of directing deer traffic in decent terrain on low pressure public ground.
This is solely the best thing I have read on SH in a while. Quality work.Let me see if I can get this right.
Population is human population and based on USDA 2019 population estimation. Square mileage is also based on current USDA info. P&Y numbers all obviously pulled from their database. The P&Y number reflects every typical whitetail recorded in that state from last year back to 1908. The mean, median, and mode are all based on the most recent 100 animals harvested in each state except in cases where there were less than 100 deer (looking at you, Vermont). In that case I used all of them. I didn't calculate those figures based on the full data set because holy-crap-are-you-kidding-me-that's-a-lot-of-deer-Wisconsin.
Saddlehunter P^0Y Spreadsheet.xlsx
Feel free to download and share and whatever for free*.
*by free I mean you will all pay by enduring me pointing out to every Infalt nut dangler that he lives in a state where a P&Y typical has been harvested for every 5 square miles of land, and just general midwest bias smashing in general. You'll also owe me one "wonder why THP never came back to Alabama" comment per times the spreadsheet is viewed.
Also, everybody please keep @Vtbow and his compatriots in Vermont in your prayers. They're fighting the good fight up there. We stan with the Florida boys too. Indiana, Wisconsin, and Illinois members feel free to never talk about how hard deer hunting is to anybody ever again.
Why did I do this? Because I had 2 hours to spare and I've done county-by-county analysis for my state and a few others so this wasn't that hard and I've never seen it before.
In all seriousness, hope it's interesting and useful. Feel free to let me know if there's something else that might can be added to it to make it more valuable. I withhold the right to say bugger off, but if it's interesting and useful to me too it'll probably happen.
