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Persimmons

fbwguy

fbwguy

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This year’s persimmon harvest has been great. I have 6 trees in my side yard as well as numerous ones around the property. Every morning my wife collects the fallen ripe ones. She divides them into ours and the deer’s. From our 6 yard trees we have collected 40 lbs of them, about 25 lbs that we are keeping. I estimate about another 20-25 lbs left to still fall. I am freezing 2 lb blocks of deer persimmons to start distributing in various shooting lanes.
 
fbwguy said:
This year’s persimmon harvest has been great. I have 6 trees in my side yard as well as numerous ones around the property. Every morning my wife collects the fallen ripe ones. She divides them into ours and the deer’s. From our 6 yard trees we have collected 40 lbs of them, about 25 lbs that we are keeping. I estimate about another 20-25 lbs left to still fall. I am freezing 2 lb blocks of deer persimmons to start distributing in various shooting lanes.
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Hollar when you are going to put out those persimmoncicles. I might want to come join the deer.
 
It's crazy, but have yet to see a single persimmon tree that has persimmons in the 4 years I have been hunting the current property I am on. A few weeks ago I was out another place I can sorta hunt and the trees were loaded with persimmons. These areas are about 30 miles apart but different soil types. The type with the persimmons was black belt prairie soil, like black delta soil interspersed with chalk deposits. My main area is red clay soil and pines, for the most part.
 
If you have a great persimmon crop or have nonproducing trees, please elaborate on the soil type you have, if you would. I wonder if there is a connection.
 
I have had the PH tested. It’s at 7.2 Ph. Just the run of the mill Arkansas country dirt. Not really sure how to classify it. Not super dark earthy stuff
 
NATHAN said:
Cool. If anybody wants to learn how to graft persimmons. Persimmonpops, nativnursery are 2 good youtube sources. if you want scions from another region, try England orchards in Indiana sells them.
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Thanks, I planned to get some this year and plant them around my place but everywhere local was out or didn't have them at all.
 
In my experience the yield has more to do with the weather and individual tree than the soil. I see pretty noticeable variation year to year in all the persimmons I check that is usually in the same direction for all trees in an area (all go up or all go down). Certain trees consistently hold more fruit, bigger or smaller fruit etc. As a native tree they are pretty hardy and grow daily well all things considered in clay soils too. I grafted 10 this year with good success and have quite a few more planned for next year
 
Persimmons in my areas been real spotty this year, but so have the honey locust pods and white oak acorns. I think it's mostly due to the weather and extra wet spring that we had. The higher ground seems to have better crop than the low lying areas that were flooded. Everything from red clay gravel, to gumbo mud, mountains that are solid rock, to just brown dirt have persimmons from what I've seen.
 
fbwguy said:
I have had the PH tested. It’s at 7.2 Ph. Just the run of the mill Arkansas country dirt. Not really sure how to classify it. Not super dark earthy stuff
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If it is 7.2 it is no where near run of the mill AR dirt. I have never seen a first soil test on unamended soil come back above 5.7. Seen several in the high 4's. Consider yourself blessed.
 
BTaylor said:
Find some coon turds with seeds and plant them. Persimmon seeds need to be scarified so those will be ready to plant and native to your area.
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I saw a pile the other day in town and thought that, but it's the native to the area that has me reluctant. All the native ones we have seem to not produce much if any fruit.
 
NMSbowhunter said:
I saw a pile the other day in town and thought that, but it's the native to the area that has me reluctant. All the native ones we have seem to not produce much if any fruit.
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You need male and female trees in close enough proximity to get good pollination.
 
BTaylor said:
You need male and female trees in close enough proximity to get good pollination.
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And that may be what is at fault, but I can't imagine random distribution would place so many same gender trees near one another to have such a poor showing in fruit production.
 
NMSbowhunter said:
And that may be what is at fault, but I can't imagine random distribution would place so many same gender trees near one another to have such a poor showing in fruit production.
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I have often wondered that same thing. I know of several clusters of trees that in 40 years have never produced. Others produce nearly every year.
 
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