I figured out that the noise reminds me of some tent poles clanging together.
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yea I heard that and thought "wow, magnesium is so quiet" LOL
In fairness I bet all sticks sound pretty loud when you bang them around 4" from a microphone.
Noise dampening. That’s a fancy way of saying it doesn’t jangle or clank as much or as long as aluminum .
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Another term for metal that's noisy but not as noisy as our competitor.
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It is still related to sound. Absorbing vibrations I.e. dampening just means it is less likely to ring out. Still a metal on metal sound but it will pitter out faster and should be more of a tick than a ring. Tape on any metal stick or platform is doing the same thing to a degree.
Right I would assume "vibration absorption" would decrease resonance and possibly duration of sounds made by contact with objects but that it wouldnt necessarily equate to quieter sound amplitude is that a correct assumption from a physics standpoint?
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Simply put, 3x more vibration dampening than aluminum or not, they're gonna be noisy without Stealth Strip.
Y’all really be anal about some little bitty noisies in the woods. I’m not trynna be a Sir Richard or nothin’, I love you all the same. but I own exactly zero stealth strips, and exactly zero hockey tape (even though I played hockey and still puck around with my kids once in a while), have never and will never wrap my platform in paracord, and though I may not be a true whitetail assassin I have killed and had opportunities at plenty of great deer to know that a little metal or plastic clank is scarcely the difference between getting a shot and getting the slip. Yes, it’s possible—and even frequently the case—that a “wrong noise” may get a deer’s attention in the wrong way. Yes I can point to those times in my own experience IF I REALLY think about it HARD…but I’d have no problem picking 3 or 4 times when I know I was noisy and metallic getting into the tree, or doing something while hanging in my saddle, and still within a half hour had deer in range. I can also point to 3 or 4 times immediately, maybe the same times, when I thought noise would get me but it was motion or scent and the noise didn’t bother a thing.
My personal opinion (disagree all you want and continue to waste your money on ugly camo tape and paracord that just holds onto human scent) is that the woods are inherently alive with ambient noise, some of which is probably unnatural by a deer’s standards, but they don’t be like “hmm metal, that must be a hunter in a climber” or “hmm that’s definitely a carbon fiber clack, not an antler” or “hmm that could have been a metal clank, but it was 30% less resonant so it couldn’t have been a Tethrd stick. Must be a that new Trophyline jawn, staying away from that tree today boys”. Nah. It just ain’t that way.
Now am I not saying you should go out in the woods and rattle your carabiner through your figure 8 nonstop, or to clap your sticks together as hard as you can when you get in/out of your tree. I’m not saying noise doesn’t matter and you can sound like a janitor’s hip walking through the woods. I am, however, “just sayin’” that I have seen (and killed) big deer within 30 yds of my tree and within an hour of (accidentally) making Ozzy Osbourne metal tracks getting into the tree.
SO as y’all watch me tear ass in my soapbox here, I guess my point is this…
TLDR: These sticks are hella quiet. but they do make a sound just like everything does. So Wrap them in all kinda BS if it makes you feel better but you can kill the same caliber of deer with stock metal components, if you’re not a total buffoon about it (and even sometimes if you are), as you can with stealth wraps and camo paint jobs and daisy duke paracord chains and amsteel tree necklaces. You are only as noisy as you let yourself be. Slow down a tick, smooth out your likely-complicated climb, and enjoy the extra time and money you DIDN’T spend on “silencing” your gear, while eating a deer loin from the buck who didn’t give a rat’s backside about the two clanks you made 30 minutes ago while setting the platform you killed him out of.
Case in point, this old boy read just that script:
oh, and not for nothin’ but it was a Trophyline platform what done the clangin’ and bangin’ that morning lol.
My personal opinion (disagree all you want and continue to waste your money on ugly camo tape and paracord that just holds onto human scent) is that the woods are inherently alive with ambient noise, some of which is probably unnatural by a deer’s standards, but they don’t be like “hmm metal, that must be a hunter in a climber” or “hmm that’s definitely a carbon fiber clack, not an antler” or “hmm that could have been a metal clank, but it was 30% less resonant so it couldn’t have been a Tethrd stick. Must be a that new Trophyline jawn, staying away from that tree today boys”. Nah. It just ain’t that way.
Now am I not saying you should go out in the woods and rattle your carabiner through your figure 8 nonstop, or to clap your sticks together as hard as you can when you get in/out of your tree. I’m not saying noise doesn’t matter and you can sound like a janitor’s hip walking through the woods. I am, however, “just sayin’” that I have seen (and killed) big deer within 30 yds of my tree and within an hour of (accidentally) making Ozzy Osbourne metal tracks getting into the tree.
SO as y’all watch me tear ass in my soapbox here, I guess my point is this…
TLDR: These sticks are hella quiet. but they do make a sound just like everything does. So Wrap them in all kinda BS if it makes you feel better but you can kill the same caliber of deer with stock metal components, if you’re not a total buffoon about it (and even sometimes if you are), as you can with stealth wraps and camo paint jobs and daisy duke paracord chains and amsteel tree necklaces. You are only as noisy as you let yourself be. Slow down a tick, smooth out your likely-complicated climb, and enjoy the extra time and money you DIDN’T spend on “silencing” your gear, while eating a deer loin from the buck who didn’t give a rat’s backside about the two clanks you made 30 minutes ago while setting the platform you killed him out of.
Case in point, this old boy read just that script:
oh, and not for nothin’ but it was a Trophyline platform what done the clangin’ and bangin’ that morning lol.
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Congrats on the buck. Disagree on all points. All depends upon 3 major things:
-How pressured the deer are you hunt.
-Where you choose to hunt (how close to known bedding)
-How large your deer numbers are.
I'd gladly switch locations with you to see whether your clankity clank method works here where I am and me set up where his big brother is where you are.
When you can see some deer or a deer, climb your tree within eyesight of, set your stand, get settled and kill one (which over the years has happened on more than one occasion) that $12 roll of Stealth Strip I may only need 1/2 a roll of to do 4 sticks, stand, strap buckles etc. is money well spent and won't break my bank or anyone else's that can afford to be in the woods. No more scent retained in strip than anything else hunt related not stored in the right place.
So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Again, congrats.
-How pressured the deer are you hunt.
-Where you choose to hunt (how close to known bedding)
-How large your deer numbers are.
I'd gladly switch locations with you to see whether your clankity clank method works here where I am and me set up where his big brother is where you are.
When you can see some deer or a deer, climb your tree within eyesight of, set your stand, get settled and kill one (which over the years has happened on more than one occasion) that $12 roll of Stealth Strip I may only need 1/2 a roll of to do 4 sticks, stand, strap buckles etc. is money well spent and won't break my bank or anyone else's that can afford to be in the woods. No more scent retained in strip than anything else hunt related not stored in the right place.
So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Again, congrats.
I agree with the sentiment about overanalyzing and nitpicking in general, however, I feel it's a game of inches sometimes, and by finding several of those 1/2 of a % modifying factors you can increase your odds significantly across your lifetime if you so desire. Details do matter with big deer. You can kill a big buck by running it over with your truck too just like you can with loud gear or no regard for scent, no scouting etc etc. Its worth weighing the pros and cons of any new product to see if it would or would not possibly impact your odds of success either positively or negatively in some way and that is exactly what threads like this are for.
I understand and appreciate your points, but I find this is a logically fallible argument. It really doesn’t pay to play the pressure card anymore. Deer are deer no matter where you are. I cut my teeth on vast swaths of very highly pressured public land for almost ten seasons and now I enjoy one teeny weeny tract of less pressured private land in a high-pressure area 550 miles away that just happens to also have big bucks; the deer don’t behave any differently than they did in the woods where 6 trucks would park on a Saturday morning at 4am. You can get picked just as easily if you’re being a doofus on any tract. My main point (veiled as it was in admittedly toothy remarks) is that the complaints about these sticks being loud AF are unwarranted when you consider the alternatives and the way most people “actually” hunt and the fact that deer are going to be deer regardless of where and who you are. It baffles me that for years guys killed big deer with loud stock gear and flannel shirts, but now some guys can’t even look at a (really awesome, lightweight, quiet, strong) product without mentally wrapping the whole thing in stealth strips or whatever and DIY solutions to problems they invented.
And then there’s the whole entire chance that I’m 100% wrong and just a salty little jerk. Which is wholly possible, and my wife would tell you it’s damn probable.
Again, not really a problem for me, everyone is permitted to hunt in their own ways, and i can’t say it bothers me any more than anything else anyone does (one sticking? Vomit!) and it’s just a musing that nobody asked me to share but I shared anyway. I appreciate your reply for sure, and I didn’t post the buck for kudos but I appreciate them too.
Wish SH.com had the beer-clanking emoji, I’d totally send you one right now.
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Well-posed reply, I think we agree more than we don’t overall. Your last sentence is the money shot IMO, I can’t refute that. Re-reading my own post, I think I had a theme of “details matter” also, but maybe the details of “how” we actually go about things and react to things like making too much noise, versus the details of “the stuff” we use or bring which just don’t matter as much as we might think.
Beer clank to you too.
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So I’m guessing there’s a strap that holds these together… be nice if there were magnets holding them together.
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How did nobody pose this important point yet?
They might have and I just missed it. It’s not been shown on any videos yet, from what I’ve seen.
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Yeah hadn’t even crossed my mind but when you said it I thought “huh he’s right what’s up widdat?”
100% of the guys I know that consistently target and kill specific bucks are OCD about every single detail of every aspect of their gear and hunts. Can you get away with some noise or not paying attention to every detail and still kill good deer, sure. But it is, imo, not going to happen with consistency and certainly not if you are targeting a specific deer and hunting it with a bow. Hunting mature bucks and/or specific deer with a bow is absolutely a game of details; scent, sound, tree picking, thermals/wind, feed, does, bedding, hunting pressure, access, egress, accuracy with bow, composure during shot opp, etc., etc. Lots of details and they all matter if the objective starts getting focused and specific. If just killing deer is the goal, you can get away with a lot more, at times.
Hey this was my reply get your own opinion!!!