Would the Schwabisch, distel, kleimheist not work for this situation?
BT
yeah, i'm boring also
i use a distel with one extra wrap (because I had one slide once) and a tender from EWO, works fine enough for me that I haven't experimented much.
Would the Schwabisch, distel, kleimheist not work for this situation?
BT
Would the Schwabisch, distel, kleimheist not work for this situation?
BT
As I was researching hitches last fall, those three came into the conversarion as well. Some folks here related they are more effective for a linemans that is roughly parallel or moderately angled with only partial body weight applied for holding and ease of breaking loose during load. None were fully recommended for a dedicated tether which is much more vertical and supporting much more of your body weight. That is what I gleaned from the discussion, so I moved on to others that were again recommeded in this thread. Not bashing on them, but a bunch of folks here have been doing this much longer and I am taking experience into consideration.Would the Schwabisch, distel, kleimheist not work for this situation?
BT
As I was researching hitches last fall, those three came into the conversarion as well. Some folks here related they are more effective for a linemans that is roughly parallel or moderately angled with only partial body weight applied for holding and ease of breaking loose during load. None were fully recommended for a dedicated tether which is much more vertical and supporting much more of your body weight. That is what I gleaned from the discussion, so I moved on to others that were again recommeded in this thread. Not bashing on them, but a bunch of folks here have been doing this much longer and I am taking experience into consideration.
Just like with saddles, ropes, climbing sticks, bows, arrow shafts, broadheads, boots, etc.....there is no such thing as "best" when it come to hitches. Clearly folks have tried some and found one that works well for them.....and that can vary from person to person. Honestly, the Ropeman 1 that came with my first tether worked just fine....but they can lead to premature rope wear and also have the potential for mechanical failure. That is what prompted me to move beyond the mulling stage to the action stage this winter.I need to look into some of these others as well. I use the Schwabisch as a backup for my duck on my linemans, and it works perfectly. I also use it as a backup above my madrock on my rappel rope, but if there is something better for that application I'm all ears, or, eyes I guess lol. I'm about as new to this as you are so I'll take whatever info I can absorb. I appreciate you starting this thread to shine some light on the subject.
BT
With the Cosmo, Soft Sticht and Cornell being discussed here,......along with the Longhorn Agile a friend is using.....it seems we have a number of viable options for a dedicated tether. After watching several videos, I decided on the Longhorn Agile and from my first round of testing, it is working quite well. What would you recommend from your much wider experience?The friction hitch on a tether, SRT, or rappel rope is holding all your weight, on a linesmen’s or adjustable bridge the hitch only sees half, because the end of the rope is also attached to the saddle.
The main job of a backup hitch is to grab the rope if the device fails for some reason, but if you can’t use the device for some reason are you going to be able to descend on the backup hitch alone?
All friction hitches should grab reliably when loaded, with no slipping. Some hitches bind up and need to be unweighted and loosened up before they will slide on the rope. Other hitches will slide without having to loosen/massage them, but still need to be unloaded first. Another group of hitches will release under load when used for a linesmen’s, or adj. bridge, when only getting half the weight. And only a few will release under load, repeatedly, under control, on a fixed/stationary rope.
This is primary reason I ditched the Ropeman from my climbing tether. I typically climb similar sized trees and that means the Ropeman grabs at about the same point in the rope each move during my climb and throughout the sit. I was finding a very local wear spot in the sheath right at that point from the teeth. I went to Distel and have been happy with it..but they can lead to premature rope wear
Did you go with the soft ring or the hard ring? Where did you get your ring? I've been looking at that as well since the link showed up.2 years ago Brocky turned me onto Sticht hitch w/ a ring. 8mm Resc tech and 6mm Sterling STP I think. Anyway, I haven't looked back. Works everytime and grabs great.
Being a stationary rope I would use the Sticht, or a WLR type hitch, to be able to easily descend without having to unweight the rope.With the Cosmo, Soft Sticht and Cornell being discussed here,......along with the Longhorn Agile a friend is using.....it seems we have a number of viable options for a dedicated tether. After watching several videos, I decided on the Longhorn Agile and from my first round of testing, it is working quite well. What would you recommend from your much wider experience?
Hard. Made it myself. Brass fitting I had in the shop.Did you go with the soft ring or the hard ring? Where did you get your ring? I've been looking at that as well since the link showed up.
I use the Sticht with an 8mm eye-eye cord and a Camp 34mm aluminum rappel ring ($18.35 on Amazon) to SRT on Sampson predator. With a lot of up and down I find the Sticht with the hard ring doesn't have to be dressed as often as the soft Sticht. It's also easier for me to tie, especially in the dark. For a linesman or tether, the soft Sticht tied like @Brocky has in post #14 tends with one hand super easy.Did you go with the soft ring or the hard ring? Where did you get your ring? I've been looking at that as well since the link showed up.
We climb and descend with panache. At least some do. Sometimes my climbs have more of a struggle bus feel but when it's time to come down, I am Batman.Friction hitches are a lifestyle thing. You get the job done, but you do it in a certain style. I get it. It's all good.