Finally got everything in,USPS has sucked lately in my area with delivery estimate. So yesterday I took my 8 wild edge stepps and my trophyline saddle and got up in the tree. I started low and on the 5th climb I was using all 8 steps and up to 14 feet. I know thats not the 20ft that everybody strives for but i was happy with it. I'm throwing together a platform tonight, we'll see how that turns out.