20 feet hunting height, how many moves to get there?

[Schemeecho]

Ok fellow saddle hunters, First off I hope everyone is having a great weekend! I believe once again that I have over thought a situation. What I am trying to do is figure out how many moves it takes me to get to 20 feet. Climbing method is 1 stick. So my question is this. What is considered your first move? Do you count the very first time that you set the stick on the tree from ground level or do you start the count from the first time that you move the stick? I'm thinking that you don't count when you first place the stick on the tree from the ground, but only count each time that you move the stick?

 

[boyne bowhunter]

I call it as 4 "moves" of the stick. I typically place the stick on the tree with the top step at about 5.5-6'. I get about 3.5-4' per move of the stick so 4 "moves" puts me right around 20'. Minimum is 5.5+4x(3.5) = 19.5' to a maximum of 6'+4x(4) =22'

 

[HuumanCreed]

I use my bow hoist as a measuring tape. I wrap different color electrical tape at certain sections. When l want to check height, i pull on rope against my hip. The color tell me how high l am. I overachieved at first with tons of color. Now l just do one orange at 20 feet, l can eyeball how high l want to be.

3 maneuvers after setting my stick at 7 feet usually get me 22 ft.

 

[Schemeecho]

I call it as 4 "moves" of the stick. I typically place the stick on the tree with the top step at about 5.5-6'. I get about 3.5-4' per move of the stick so 4 "moves" puts me right around 20'. Minimum is 5.5+4x(3.5) = 19.5' to a maximum of 6'+4x(4) =22'

I tend to place my stick at about 6' as well and was figuring I will get about 3 to 4 feet per move as well. So I was thinking it would take me at least 4 moves

 

[Schemeecho]

I use my bow hoist as a measuring tape. I wrap different color electrical tape at certain sections. When l want to check height, i pull on rope against my hip. The color tell me how high l am. I overachieved at first with tons of color. Now l just do one orange at 20 feet, l can eyeball how high l want to be.

3 maneuvers after setting my stick at 7 feet usually get me 22 ft.

I don't have a gear hoist yet, so what I have done is measure a piece of string to 20 feet. Then I placed a piece of masking tape every foot until 20 foot mark. Then I just attach one end to my saddle then use something to weight the other end to the ground. As I climb I'll pull the rope up to the top step of my stick and see where I'm at. Climb and repeat until I'm at 200 feet.

 

[HuumanCreed]

I don't have a gear hoist yet, so what I have done is measure a piece of string to 20 feet. Then I placed a piece of masking tape every foot until 20 foot mark. Then I just attach one end to my saddle then use something to weight the other end to the ground. As I climb I'll pull the rope up to the top step of my stick and see where I'm at. Climb and repeat until I'm at 200 feet.

Wow....200 feet. You take the Eberhart 'go as high as you can' philosophy seriously

 

[Schemeecho]

Update.......... So I just went out and made a climb. I set my stick and measured it with a tape measure. The initial set was just a touch over 6 feet. Did the the first climb and adjusted my tether when at the top of my stick. I allowed myself just enough slack so when I sit and hang it puts me a few inches above my stick. This still allows me to reach down underneath me to release my cam buckle strap .Doing this means I can now move my stick without loosing any height. When I reach up to rese the stick I can get another 4 feet. 3 more moves puts me at 22 feet. 6+4(4x3)=22 So, now I know many moves it takes me to reach 20 feet. One thing I did notice when I got set up at hunting height. Was that I must have started to climb where the tree wanted to lean and didn't catch it while climbing. So the lean was off at my right side and I was fighting a bit just to stay centered on my stick. I don't know if it was being up to 22 feet or if it was because there was a slight lean to my right but, I felt really uncomfortable trying to move around the tree. When I would do just 2 moves climbing then set up for hunting height at what I believe would be about 14 feet. I never had that feeling of being uncomfortable like I did at 22 feet. Was it because of the lean or was it all in my own head because I was twice as high and my eye sight of what I was seeing looked much different. I guess I need to make some more climbs to see if that feeling goes away. I will plan on setting up again next weekend and do a complete set up and just chill for a few hours in the saddle. Maybe do it in the morning and enjoy some coffee while I'm up there. What do y'all think?

 

[Schemeecho]

Wow....200 feet. You take the Eberhart 'go as high as you can' philosophy seriously

yeah that was a typo........ my bad. 20 feet.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

That's the system I use to estimate where I am on the tree. I typically like to be about 22-25 feet based on my old climber days so I typically make 4-5 moves. That said, I'm not fixed on a specific height. I climb until I get as high as I can and still optimize my shooting distance while maintaining cover. Sometimes that's 15 feet, occasionally its as high as 30 (only rifle that high). There's one spot I hunt occasionally in late Oct in a select cut where I only climb about 12 feet as that just enough to shoot over the beech scruff while still blending into it from the ground. Any higher and I look like a transformer on a power pole.

To me that's one of the beauties of one sticking . . .its completely adaptable to how ever high the situation dictates. To that point I just as often find myself moving "a half stick" at the end of the climb just to end up in the prime spot.

 

[Schemeecho]

That's the system I use to estimate where I am on the tree. I typically like to be about 22-25 feet based on my old climber days so I typically make 4-5 moves. That said, I'm not fixed on a specific height. I climb until I get as high as I can and still optimize my shooting distance while maintaining cover. Sometimes that's 15 feet, occasionally its as high as 30 (only rifle that high). There's one spot I hunt occasionally in late Oct in a select cut where I only climb about 12 feet as that just enough to shoot over the beech scruff while still blending into it from the ground. Any higher and I look like a transformer on a power pole.

To me that's one of the beauties of one sticking . . .its completely adaptable to how ever high the situation dictates. To that point I just as often find myself moving "a half stick" at the end of the climb just to end up in the prime spot.

Once I get my climbing down good and it feels more comfortable I plan on testing it out in a spot I plan to hunt this season. Still got some scouting to do. So' I figure that will be a good time to do a few observation sits as well as see where and how high a my need to be. As far as cover I'm not sure yet. I assume that will change as the weather changes. I'll know more when I get back out there to look around. So far only been looking at it from an online map. Just got a few transition spots picked out. Going boots on the ground next weekend

 

[sdoyle1]

I’m 6’4” and use a 20” Eastern Woods Outdoors stick. I can get the top of my stick to 8’ off the ground and can get right at 6’ with each additional move. This puts the top of my stick right about 20’ with two moves after my initial setting of the stick from the ground. I made my own aider and it’s four 13” steps. I really like a simple easy step on my aider.


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[beaston]

I'm 6'2 and built a 20" stick with a three step (20" per step)aider. I set my stick fairly easy at 100" to top step. Two moves gets me right around 20 feet if I don't use my tether to hold the stick while securing if I do than I get to about 18.5 ft with two moves. I set my tether almost as high as I can when standing on my top step than sit and reach down to grab my gear tie with amsteel looped through the eye to release the cam cleat and move stick to just under tether. I typically move three times which puts me around 25ish feet.. early season two moves is perfect. I built an adjustable three step aider for late season for extra layer climbing but mostly I can manage with the 20" aider

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