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.22wmr for pigs

kyler1945

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Pigs yield 40-45% live weight in meat if you’re taking every single scrap.

i process, or at least quarter in field 90% of the time, so I get something like 20-25lbs from a 100lb pig. If you’re going to take it home, and take your time, you should be able to get 30+lbs.
 

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That 'Lil ones like a personal pan piggie then :tonguewink:
Use the whole thing to make a pig in the blanket. Spit out the bones. Lol
A 22 short will kill them with heart shots. It’s the quality of the blood trail and distance of shot that needs more muscle in the load chosen.
 

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How about a shorter self filmed video of you hunting and harvesting one of these? Next time you head out to fill the freezer.
 

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How about a shorter self filmed video of you hunting and harvesting one of these? Next time you head out to fill the freezer.
I honestly don't know how I'd self-film stalking pigs on the ground. I'm open to suggestions, but I think at best it would require me buying more of that expensive camera gear and at worst it would involve fiddling with a camera so much that I missed my shot opportunities.

We all know how I feel about missing trigger time.

And @swampsnyper has a good point. Heart shots drop game. But something about that 22 mag, man. It was dropping pigs better than a 2" rage. It was almost like shooting a 30-06 but without blood trails. The big pig didn't have a drop of blood anywhere except coming out his snout.
 

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Congrats on the bacon!!

I have the exact same gun I bought for saddleploosa. I’ve only shot it to sight it in. I don’t think I’ve been to a saddleploosa since! Lol

I need to come down there and stack some up!


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Congrats on the bacon!!

I have the exact same gun I bought for saddleploosa. I’ve only shot it to sight it in. I don’t think I’ve been to a saddleploosa since! Lol

I need to come down there and stack some up!


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All talk, no drive-time.

Whenever you finish that house up, come on down.
 

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I honestly don't know how I'd self-film stalking pigs on the ground. I'm open to suggestions, but I think at best it would require me buying more of that expensive camera gear and at worst it would involve fiddling with a camera so much that I missed my shot opportunities.

We all know how I feel about missing trigger time.

And @swampsnyper has a good point. Heart shots drop game. But something about that 22 mag, man. It was dropping pigs better than a 2" rage. It was almost like shooting a 30-06 but without blood trails. The big pig didn't have a drop of blood anywhere except coming out his snout.
I’ve killed enough with sticks to know with all that hair and mud, not much blood hits the ground sometimes, even with a pass thru. It’s just about knowing your weapon and it’s capabilities. Heck, they got people killing them with air rifles and sling shots. And I’m not against feeding cripples to coyotes either. That’s just another day a deer doesn’t get harassed. Shoot everyone you see. Tanks, bazookas, claymores, it doesn’t matter to me. The war on pigs is fun!
 

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I’ve killed enough with sticks to know with all that hair and mud, not much blood hits the ground sometimes, even with a pass thru. It’s just about knowing your weapon and it’s capabilities. Heck, they got people killing them with air rifles and sling shots. And I’m not against feeding cripples to coyotes either. That’s just another day a deer doesn’t get harassed. Shoot everyone you see. Tanks, bazookas, claymores, it doesn’t matter to me. The war on pigs is fun!
Yeah, when they literally make paintbrushes out of their hair, you can bet your azz it'll hold blood.

I don't hate pigs the way most folks do. It doesn't make any sense when you think about it. Folks say they're invasive. Well, when do the become naturalized? They've been here 600 years. They bother deer? I saw literally dozens of deer on the same 500 were tract with the pigs last weekend. Jumped them bedded down yards apart from each other. They tear up the earth? Not in the big woods. Farms, sure. And if I was a farmer I'd hate pigs. But farmers are responsible for WAAAAY more habitat destruction than pigs. Pot, meet kettle. And if a farmer has his crops destroyed by pigs, down here at least he writes it off, gets a free depredation permit, and has hunters pay him to get on it to kill pigs.

Don't get me wrong, I shoot them like I shoot everything. But just because they're tasty and fun to shoot. Id be sad if we wiped them out.
 

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All talk, no drive-time.

Whenever you finish that house up, come on down.
It really sucks when your right!!
I actually just put in my notice, took another job that pays more to work less. The hr guy said I worked twice as many hours as his techs last year. I hope it’s true.


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Yeah, when they literally make paintbrushes out of their hair, you can bet your azz it'll hold blood.

I don't hate pigs the way most folks do. It doesn't make any sense when you think about it. Folks say they're invasive. Well, when do the become naturalized? They've been here 600 years. They bother deer? I saw literally dozens of deer on the same 500 were tract with the pigs last weekend. Jumped them bedded down yards apart from each other. They tear up the earth? Not in the big woods. Farms, sure. And if I was a farmer I'd hate pigs. But farmers are responsible for WAAAAY more habitat destruction than pigs. Pot, meet kettle. And if a farmer has his crops destroyed by pigs, down here at least he writes it off, gets a free depredation permit, and has hunters pay him to get on it to kill pigs.

Don't get me wrong, I shoot them like I shoot everything. But just because they're tasty and fun to shoot. Id be sad if we wiped them out.

Pigs do a pretty good job of tearing up the earth in the big woods up here. They're particularly destructive in wetland areas which are often associated with rare plant species. This sort of disturbance to the ground is also a vector for invasive plants to take hold and proliferate. This changes the entire ecology of a wetland community and often leads to the outright extirpation of native plants.
Yes, farming or other development also negatively affect the environment, but we don't allow farming on sites set aside to protect natural communities, so nor would allowing pigs to persist there be appropriate.

Like coyotes, it's not a problem you can shoot your way out of, but unlike coyotes, there are measurable, detrimental environmental effects to pigs establishing themselves in an area.
 

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And all that said, Im totally interested in bow hunting some pigs if anyone has a good spot and wants to hang in a tree one day.
 

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Pigs do a pretty good job of tearing up the earth in the big woods up here. They're particularly destructive in wetland areas which are often associated with rare plant species. This sort of disturbance to the ground is also a vector for invasive plants to take hold and proliferate. This changes the entire ecology of a wetland community and often leads to the outright extirpation of native plants.
Yes, farming or other development also negatively affect the environment, but we don't allow farming on sites set aside to protect natural communities, so nor would allowing pigs to persist there be appropriate.

Like coyotes, it's not a problem you can shoot your way out of, but unlike coyotes, there are measurable, detrimental environmental effects to pigs establishing themselves in an area.
I'm not denying pigs can impact the environment, I just think the ecological damage pigs cause is overplayed and sensationalized. Assuming it was a native species, biologists would likely say that their rooting softened the soil and allowed new plant growth in general, not just invasive species. Down here at least, the areas they root grow right back with whatever was there already once they move on, usually thicker and greener too. Frogs and other ditch-dwellers nest in the old wallows. Droppings spread palmetto and other specie's seeds. Piglets feed the alligators. They are omnivores so they do their fair part cleaning up carrion. It's not as simplistic as people make it sound. I think it's because big-ag backs a lot of anti-hog rhetoric. And I have seen WAY more wetlands destroyed as a result of agriculture and urban sprawl than because of pigs. COE is happy to let you destroy a wetland if you pay the blood money.

Some folks say they spread disease, but I've seen way more folks hurt with deer through the windshield than from tuberculosis or trichinosis. And overpopulations of deer can decimate native browse. And deer hurt farmers too. It's weird that pigs get a bad rap. I think it goes back to that whole Ralph Emerson/David Thoreau Naturalism that insists on keeping everything "as it was before we got here." But that's BS. The only constant is change in nature. You can't keep it in stasis.

We have a very healthy hog population down here and were ground zero for the "pig invasion" the Discovery Channel likes to hype. Agriculture, clear cutting, chemical runoff, urban sprawl, the dam systems, and a plethora of other issues are way more detrimental to our river bottom swamps and delta regions.

Controlling any species is ultimately all about population control, and as a hunter I'm in love with the idea of an animal you have to aggressively manage.
 

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That cz is a nice gun. I have the Marlin MN 25 mentioned also, tack driver, and a 22 Magnum is an incredible round. If it was legal in VA I would make it my tree stand 75 yards and less deer gun. I just wish I had pigs closer to VA Beach, VA.
 

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Shot a sow down in Georgia last year with my cz 457 22wmr. Shot her in the head coming straight at me at about 25 yards. She barrel rolled and was laying on her side twitching. I put one behind the ear just to make it quick and painless. She was about 80-90lbs dressed.
 

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I'm not denying pigs can impact the environment, I just think the ecological damage pigs cause is overplayed and sensationalized. Assuming it was a native species, biologists would likely say that their rooting softened the soil and allowed new plant growth in general, not just invasive species. Down here at least, the areas they root grow right back with whatever was there already once they move on, usually thicker and greener too. Frogs and other ditch-dwellers nest in the old wallows. Droppings spread palmetto and other specie's seeds. Piglets feed the alligators. They are omnivores so they do their fair part cleaning up carrion. It's not as simplistic as people make it sound. I think it's because big-ag backs a lot of anti-hog rhetoric. And I have seen WAY more wetlands destroyed as a result of agriculture and urban sprawl than because of pigs. COE is happy to let you destroy a wetland if you pay the blood money.

Some folks say they spread disease, but I've seen way more folks hurt with deer through the windshield than from tuberculosis or trichinosis. And overpopulations of deer can decimate native browse. And deer hurt farmers too. It's weird that pigs get a bad rap. I think it goes back to that whole Ralph Emerson/David Thoreau Naturalism that insists on keeping everything "as it was before we got here." But that's BS. The only constant is change in nature. You can't keep it in stasis.

We have a very healthy hog population down here and were ground zero for the "pig invasion" the Discovery Channel likes to hype. Agriculture, clear cutting, chemical runoff, urban sprawl, the dam systems, and a plethora of other issues are way more detrimental to our river bottom swamps and delta regions.

Controlling any species is ultimately all about population control, and as a hunter I'm in love with the idea of an animal you have to aggressively manage.

I realize I won't change your mind here, but one can justify any sort of environmental degradation or invasive species impact using the above logic.

The reasoning that 'Other things are worse' or just randomly assigning the professional opinion of "biologists would say..." just directly ignores or is meant to diminish the fact that hogs have negative affects on native species and this is proven empirically. If you don't value the preservation of native species, and native communities/landscapes they comprise, that's fine just say so, but recognize that's where the difference of opinion lies, as some people do value those things.

A main difference between hogs and general development, is that we're as a society, sort of dependent on some amount of development for meeting our basic needs. Hogs are an issue on lands we set aside specifically to be spared from development, so they're an additive threat. It's not a 'pick one or the other' as the bad guy situation.

And again, Im totally down with hog hunting as there's no negative impact from that. I'd just prefer a landscape without them entirely.
 
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