2TC guys… rappel or not?

[dramsey25]

Just interested in how everyone is getting down after the hunt…

If you do rappel do you climb on your rappel line or use a separate tether?

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I 2TC down now 100%. I played around with rappel early on, but I hated fooling with the quick link and all that extra rope and don't even get me started on a pull-down rope, lol. The climb down is easier and faster than the climb up since you have gravity working for you on the way down. The trick is to make the same 18 or so inch moves and not try to go to fast. Also, on the way down make sure to not let the top tether overlap the foot tether or you can't move it and have to reposition. You get the hang of it pretty fast.

 

[Red Beard]

I'm pretty interested to see the stats. Wonder if the metrics change over time. I.e., I imagine there are some (myself included) who started off rappelling and then ended up ditching the rappel gear for whatever reason in favor of 2TC down.

 

[Red Beard]

I 2TC down now 100%. I played around with rappel early on, but I hated fooling with the quick link and all that extra rope and don't even get me started on a pull-down rope, lol. The climb down is easier and faster than the climb up since you have gravity working for you on the way down. The trick is to make the same 18 or so inch moves and not try to go to fast. Also, on the way down make sure to not let the top tether overlap the foot tether or you can't move it and have to reposition. You get the hang of it pretty fast.

Boom. My point exactly. @NMSbowhunter beat me by a minute.

 

[krub6b]

2TC back down for me, rappel was intriguing, but I was waiting to spend the money on it and after hearing @NMSbowhunter and others ditch their rappel setup in favor of strictly 2TC I decided I could use the funds I would have spent on a rappel setup on something more useful

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[SNIPERBBB]

Rappel, rappel, rappel.

Get the half-line system, or modify your current system to match it and save yourself a lot of headache. Climbing on a long tether using a belay/descent devices gives you a quick way to the ground is something bad happens, or you need a emergency bathroom visit. If you have SRT gear you can get back up easier to where you left off.

Leave a preset when you come out of the tree so you can SRT back up it if you hunt that tree again. New trees I 2TC the first time unless its easy to get a throwball in a crotch, then SRT it the next time. Having both systems in the pack doesnt hurt you weight wise anyways. For 2TC all you would be doing is adding a hand ascender, which I also use for 2TC. For SRT its really nothing to carry the footloop tether in case you're paracord loop came out of the tree or you want to move a tree over.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Rappel, rappel, rappel.

Get the half-line system, or modify your current system to match it and save yourself a lot of headache. Climbing on a long tether using a belay/descent devices gives you a quick way to the ground is something bad happens, or you need a emergency bathroom visit. If you have SRT gear you can get back up easier to where you left off.

Leave a preset when you come out of the tree so you can SRT back up it if you hunt that tree again. New trees I 2TC the first time unless its easy to get a throwball in a crotch, then SRT it the next time. Having both systems in the pack doesnt hurt you weight wise anyways. For 2TC all you would be doing is adding a hand ascender, which I also use for 2TC. For SRT its really nothing to carry the footloop tether in case you're paracord loop came out of the tree or you want to move a tree over.

Do you have a picture of your set up? I'm familiar with most of what you mentioned but what is a half-line? Also, you are carrying a(multiple?) throwball with you? Are you carrying a throw cube? How much line?

When I was doing DRT, I found I needed at least 2 throwballs to get over tricky limbs, isolate a limb or most importantly, unstick the first throw ball.

 

[gcr0003]

I typically rappel. I bring 50ft of 8mm rope with two WLR hitches that live on it everywhere I go incase I want to rope climb a tree. I also use it as a pull up rope, 1 end for my bag, 1 end for my bow. I typically tie an alpine butterfly loop near center and then use a carabiner to connect to itself. The other half of the rope is used to pull it down after rappel. I can 2TC down extremely easily but find myself rappelling a good percent of the time since I already have stuff out.

 

[SNIPERBBB]

Do you have a picture of your set up? I'm familiar with most of what you mentioned but what is a half-line? Also, you are carrying a(multiple?) throwball with you? Are you carrying a throw cube? How much line?

When I was doing DRT, I found I needed at least 2 throwballs to get over tricky limbs, isolate a limb or most importantly, unstick the first throw ball.

Ill get a picture later.

Half-line system is 30ft of 8 or 9mm rope, a sterling F4 device, and paracord/dynaglide. The climb rope has attachement points at the loop end and the tail end so you can attach the paracord/dynaglide so you can make the rope longer for pulling it up the tree so you dont need 60 feet to go 30ft high. The attachment point of the loop end is for your pull down rope.

You can replace the rope sizes/devices with if you already have the grigri/madrock.

Heres a video of it:

As for the throwballs, if i'm cold rolling a hunt, ill have 60ft of paracord and one throwball. Im only looking for easy crotches to SRT in that situation.

Prehunt scouting/setting up trees, Im bringing 2 throwballs, 100-150 of line and maybe my extension pole

 

[tmhaz1]

Rappell down all the time. I use a different tether for climbing and the actual hunt

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Ill get a picture later.

Half-line system is 30ft of 8 or 9mm rope, a sterling F4 device, and paracord/dynaglide. The climb rope has attachement points at the loop end and the tail end so you can attach the paracord/dynaglide so you can make the rope longer for pulling it up the tree so you dont need 60 feet to go 30ft high. The attachment point of the loop end is for your pull down rope.

You can replace the rope sizes/devices with if you already have the grigri/madrock.

Heres a video of it:

As for the throwballs, if i'm cold rolling a hunt, ill have 60ft of paracord and one throwball. Im only looking for easy crotches to SRT in that situation.

Prehunt scouting/setting up trees, Im bringing 2 throwballs, 100-150 of line and maybe my extension pole

Ok, yes, I saw that video when it came out and liked the idea. I need to go rewatch it. Those guys got me into DRT.