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45-70 is a great round. If you handload you can load mild to wild with it. For that matter, the 458 Lott can easily be loaded down to mirror all the 45-70 loads using the same projectiles. You could even load 458 Lott with black powder and cast bullets and have a 45-110 of sorts.I used to hand load my 45-7p, mainly because when I started shooting it (moose hunting with a NEF single shot way back)
I used to hand load my 45-70, mainly because when I started shooting it (moose hunting with a NEF single shot way back) there were no good factory rounds. Worked up my own 300gr JHP round for hunting. Now there are lots of good factory 300 JHPs out there so I don’t bother any more.
 
Thought I had clicked over to rokslide for a moment, but the thread would have been a dozen pages longer with memes by now...

Seems like a decent hunting gun list to me. Perhaps a bit weighted toward western/longer range hunting.
 
I like the list and think it would work. I personally would replace the 6.5 and the 300 with one 7mm PRC and keep plenty of reloading supplies.
 
Its best to srart them out on open sights
41 years old, still haven’t shot with a scope. I would if I ever do a rifle hunt out west but here I’ve been just fine with a Remington 870 and a slug barrel out to 125. I’m not against them in any way, just didn’t live in an area where it was a thing and didn’t have the money for extras anyway when I grew up. 90% of shots were 40 yards and in anyway. Lotta shots through a Ruger 10/22 at cans or small game helped I think.
 
41 years old, still haven’t shot with a scope. I would if I ever do a rifle hunt out west but here I’ve been just fine with a Remington 870 and a slug barrel out to 125. I’m not against them in any way, just didn’t live in an area where it was a thing and didn’t have the money for extras anyway when I grew up. 90% of shots were 40 yards and in anyway. Lotta shots through a Ruger 10/22 at cans or small game helped I think.
61 years old and can't remember the last time I could see iron sights and target at the same time. :tearsofjoy: I've been plinking at red squirrels out the back door with an old daisy red rider all winter long and sighting is just a rough estimate although I can still follow the BB all the way to the target.
 
61 years old and can't remember the last time I could see iron sights and target at the same time. :tearsofjoy: I've been plinking at red squirrels out the back door with an old daisy red rider all winter long and sighting is just a rough estimate although I can still follow the BB all the way to the target.
My dad has rife hunted western oregon for 30 plus years and his average shot is 17 yards.you cant miss you just point.like when all your pins on your bow are in the zone
 
it gets some hate, but the 6.5CM really is a sweet caliber for deer and similar-sized game, especially if you aren't a fan of recoil and don't like muzzle brakes

I don’t own one but I’ve never understood all the hate for it. The last 260 I built used a custom match reamer, add to that the smithing and new barrel cost, then the extended mag bottom metal and the cost to install it. And don’t forget the need to reload to take advantage of all that work.

Along comes the 6.5 CM and does virtually the same thing out of the box with factory ammo. There’s a lot to like there. Looking at the reamer print it’s obvious why they tend to show such consistent accuracy. It’s not magic it’s just good design.
 

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Thought I had clicked over to rokslide for a moment, but the thread would have been a dozen pages longer with memes by now...

Seems like a decent hunting gun list to me. Perhaps a bit weighted toward western/longer range hunting.
Any thread I see about hunting cartridges is always worth the read. But as soon as I see 6.5 it’s clear to me the author lives in fantasy or eats crayons so I’m out lol
 
I don’t own one but I’ve never understood all the hate for it. The last 260 I built used a custom match reamer, add to that the smithing and new barrel cost, then the extended mag bottom metal and the cost to install it. And don’t forget the need to reload to take advantage of all that work.

Along comes the 6.5 CM and does virtually the same thing out of the box with factory ammo. There’s a lot to like there. Looking at the reamer print it’s obvious why they tend to show such consistent accuracy. It’s not magic it’s just good design.
I think the hate comes from all the people who seem to think the 6.5 CM is the end all be all 1000 yard deer/sheep/elk/elephant cartridge and shout it from the rooftops and don't seem to realize that there have been great cartridges out there for nearly a century doing basically the same thing. The 260, as mentioned was a fairly recent cartridge that had great potential but nearly disappeared, The 6.5 Swedish Mauser has been around forever and is a great cartridge. The 257 Roberts is another cartridge that fills that niche and has a die hard following but is hardly mainstream. There is nothing wrong with the 6.5 CM but it is hardly anything new. It is just the shiny new thing.
 
I don’t own one but I’ve never understood all the hate for it. The last 260 I built used a custom match reamer, add to that the smithing and new barrel cost, then the extended mag bottom metal and the cost to install it. And don’t forget the need to reload to take advantage of all that work.

Along comes the 6.5 CM and does virtually the same thing out of the box with factory ammo. There’s a lot to like there. Looking at the reamer print it’s obvious why they tend to show such consistent accuracy. It’s not magic it’s just good design.

I think it's because a bunch of new shooters adopted it and pranced around the gun range extolling its virtues (without knowing much) and it made ol' timers mad.
 
I think it's because a bunch of new shooters adopted it and pranced around the gun range extolling its virtues (without knowing much) and it made ol' timers mad.
Not to mention the tens of thousands of gallons of printer's ink spilled in hunting magazines devoted to extoling the 6.5 CM's virtues.

A friend of mine bought one when they first came out. He played with it a while and sold it. He said he'd keep his 6.5 Swede.
 
Not to mention the tens of thousands of gallons of printer's ink spilled in hunting magazines devoted to extoling the 6.5 CM's virtues.

A friend of mine bought one when they first came out. He played with it a while and sold it. He said he'd keep his 6.5 Swede.

Yeah, if he already had a Swede, then I understand. But a lot of the argument against the CM is "why buy that when there is the Swede?"

Well, if you have no 6.5 mm cartridges, then the existence of another alternative doesn't to me make the new one wrong or something. That would be like "why consider buying a Camry when the Accord exists?"
 
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