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8mm v 11 mm linemans and tether

A rope thats 3mm thinner won't help you kill a buck.

I was going to change from my 11mm to 8mm then realized it was kinda dumb to replace something that worked fine and was going to cost me about $250 for the Kong Ducks and Oval Carabiners.

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True story, but I know I'm gonna buy something for hunting every year, so upgrading to 8mm last year was my "controlled burn" I started looking at a new compound, either hoyt or prime and I thought, rope seems less expensive.

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The stretching and cut resistance were what got me interested, being firm and staying round were a bonus. Glad the testing went well, would be interesting to find what the break strength of the rope itself is.
When he tested it he was reporting an average of 4000 lbs. He also listed that on the link on their site. Additionally I thought it was cool that he says it is not ANSI certified based on their specs. But rock climbing ropes are apparently not under the ANSI standard. I know nothing on that and am not about to say anything incorrect on it either but they know. So I am just saying I thought that broadcast of honesty says everything about arbsession.com
 
When he tested it he was reporting an average of 4000 lbs. He also listed that on the link on their site. Additionally I thought it was cool that he says it is not ANSI certified based on their specs. But rock climbing ropes are apparently not under the ANSI standard. I know nothing on that and am not about to say anything incorrect on it either but they know. So I am just saying I thought that broadcast of honesty says everything about arbsession.com
ANSI standards are different for dynamic ropes (which lead lines for rock climbing are) since they stretch to reduce force, they do not have to have a 22.4kn break strength.
with that said I use 10mm pro Tac from blue water as my tether. 6700 lbs break strength, 5000 lbs at the sewn eye (both meet or exceed ANSI) they are smaller than what sterling htp lists as 10mm but they are stronger and little more flexible.
 
ANSI standards are different for dynamic ropes (which lead lines for rock climbing are) since they stretch to reduce force, they do not have to have a 22.4kn break strength.
with that said I use 10mm pro Tac from blue water as my tether. 6700 lbs break strength, 5000 lbs at the sewn eye (both meet or exceed ANSI) they are smaller than what sterling htp lists as 10mm but they are stronger and little more flexible.

Does the lifespan of 8 and 11mm tether or linesman vary from one to the other, or should we expect similar longevity?
 
Does the lifespan of 8 and 11mm tether or linesman vary from one to the other, or should we expect similar longevity?
I’ll speak specifically to kermantle ropes like most of us use. Life span can vary depending on several factors: the two biggest factors are how you treat your ropes (cleaning, storage, inspection) and the cover percentage. Because our ropes constantly rub up against abrasive tree bark while loaded, You want your core to cover percentage (usually called sheath mass) to be closer to equal. Too thick of a cover and your rope is too flimsy and not usually as strong, too thin of a cover means less long term durability. This applies to kermantle ropes not standard double braids where the core and cover equally share the load. Other things to consider are how much exposure to sunlight the ropes see, and if they are wet or dirty when stored. Either rope size works great but I am partial to a little larger stiffer diameter for handling, especially for a linesman rope.
 
Just thought anyone thinking about making the switch might want to see a side by side comparison of bulk. The 8mm is actually a foot longer than the 11mm.
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Love the pic….did you put these on a scale? I started out with 11mm, but soon went after the smaller diameter.
 
I'm glad you posted these pics I wanted to see an actual comparison. I want to make the switch, but the cost of buying the new ropes and the Kong ducks is about $300 CAD and its turned me off for the time being. My 11mm and ropemans are doing the same job.



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Like I said before on other threads. That 11mm feels real nice in the hand. I typically grab below by hitch to take my weight off my hitch and then move my hitch up or down. It made it a lot more difficult with 8mm rope especially once it gets cold and your hands get stiff. One sticking or 2 tether climbing with thicker rope is my preference as well. I think the bulk is comparable between the two as well. YMMV
 
Just thought anyone thinking about making the switch might want to see a side by side comparison of bulk. The 8mm is actually a foot longer than the 11mm.
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Any idea what the difference in weight is between these two setups. I currently have the Tethrd lineman ropes and Ropeman but recently bought a Kong Duck and Petzl Oval OK Carabiner. Thinking of switching to the 8mm rope.
 
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Just thought anyone thinking about making the switch might want to see a side by side comparison of bulk. The 8mm is actually a foot longer than the 11mm.
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Found a video that shows a 13 ounce difference between the 2 set ups.

 
It's not the weight, it's the bulk. 8 is so much nicer to haul in pouch.
Yes, but dropping 3/4 of a lb is quite nice when you haul your kill out on your back. The lighter I go in the lighter I come out and the more meat I can carry. Not to mention I'm 51 and arthritic so every little bit helps.
 
It's not the weight, it's the bulk. 8 is so much nicer to haul in pouch.
I carry my Sladder in the pouch with my lineman's loop, rope retrieval line and various carabiners to hang gear so the less bulk the better as well. That was the primary reason for wanting to switch.
 
I've mostly settled on 9mm ropes. Both dynamic and static depending on application. Still very packable, but also works with all of my gear without issue. I've had some problems/concerns when going smaller than 9mm. Works best for me.
 
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