I watched this the other day. I will play with this idea later in the off season. But the beginning where he tosses the rope up is pretty sweet. I know someone talked about this before, couldn't find where.
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Basic rope climbing. Monkey fist/ DRT
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I’ve been using a similar method for a year or so and it works but takes a lot of practice and can be aggravating sometimes I miss but rope doesn’t make much noise hitting the ground so I just try again.
I don’t tie a monkey fist my method consists of 6 wraps around hand to elbow then 3 wraps around that bundle then make a handle through the bundle like he did then 6 more small loops in the hand for slack that also gets thrown with the bundle wrap.
Once the weight of the bundle goes over the limb it uncoils itself and comes down to me.
Probably not the best explanation I’ll try to get a picture.
I can’t get as high as I could with a throw ball and line but the larger rope doesn’t tangle nearly as much in the woods and it’s one less thing to keep up with and I can consistently hit 25’ limbs and for me that’s ok.
It’s a very safe, quiet, and light weight method to get up a tree using DRT but no method is perfect so each person must decide if it will work for there needs.
I don’t tie a monkey fist my method consists of 6 wraps around hand to elbow then 3 wraps around that bundle then make a handle through the bundle like he did then 6 more small loops in the hand for slack that also gets thrown with the bundle wrap.
Once the weight of the bundle goes over the limb it uncoils itself and comes down to me.
Probably not the best explanation I’ll try to get a picture.
I can’t get as high as I could with a throw ball and line but the larger rope doesn’t tangle nearly as much in the woods and it’s one less thing to keep up with and I can consistently hit 25’ limbs and for me that’s ok.
It’s a very safe, quiet, and light weight method to get up a tree using DRT but no method is perfect so each person must decide if it will work for there needs.
I think you had mentioned it before. I didn't recall videos or photos? Or did you have some. I liked the video when he showed the back wards granny toss. The gears started moving when I watched that.
I don’t think I have pictures but to be honest I don’t remember but I’ll try to get some.
I use the hook shot method I seem to be the most accurate and with the most power.
I use the hook shot method I seem to be the most accurate and with the most power.
archer4life
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I use this method as often as possible just to keep it simple and not have to mess with a throw line. It doesn’t always work out but is nice to have as a quick option when it will work.
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I do basically the same thing as this guy except I only wrap the coil 3 times I find it releases better and the coil he puts in the other hand I use only one hand to throw both coil and loops.
John RB
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In my experience, using a monkey fist or equivalent ball of rope is not a good idea for a saddle hunter. I have tried it plenty. Reasons:
1. Its big and much easier to be deflected and miss our target.
2. Unless you're only climbing 10ft, it generally doesn't work on anything higher... it's just not heavy enough to pull the Rope down.
Also, consider that DSRT has advantages over DRT and SRT. I made this video last year in case it helps anyone.
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1. Its big and much easier to be deflected and miss our target.
2. Unless you're only climbing 10ft, it generally doesn't work on anything higher... it's just not heavy enough to pull the Rope down.
Also, consider that DSRT has advantages over DRT and SRT. I made this video last year in case it helps anyone.
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The monkey fist is a great way of moving around or changing your tie in point once you are already in the tree. So for example, I might use a throwball to set my climbing line over a branch because that branch is an easy to hit target. Once I climb to that branch I can then reposition my climbing line to a nearby and more optimal location using the monkey fist.
1. But softer, doesn’t bounce off, and generally isn’t being over thrown into other branches.
2. You have enough coils so that when it releases and drops it will be in reach.
Shoulda been a saddlehunter
Shoulda learned to rope and climb
I 'd be wearnin a transformer, hanging just right on a scrape line
Shoulda learned to rope and climb
I 'd be wearnin a transformer, hanging just right on a scrape line
John RB
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I have also used monkey fist or something similar to reposition when in a tree. It works on low, easy throws pretty well. But if i want my feet 20ft or more off the ground, which is typical, I am looking for a crotch that's 25 or more, and if i have to make a ball of rope large and heavy enough to drop out of there, it's gonna require have more rope than i need for the climb itself, not to mention the throw is harder. I recall needing a 2lb weight to get it down reliably (considering the differences in the roughness and friction in the crotch) and i would rather carry a 1lb thowball. Another concern is getting it stuck. I have gotten it stuck and what a PIA that was. Everyone is free to try it yourselves... just sharing my experience. I just don't want anyone who is going into rope climbing to experience any frustration they can avoid.
In an emergency situation where i arrive in the woods and my paracord preset is gone and i have no throwball, i typically have a piece of paracord with me, and fashion an emergency throwball. I find that pretty reliable too.
But a 50ft length of throwline and a 16oz ball is what i have been using for years. Practice on an easy tree.
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In an emergency situation where i arrive in the woods and my paracord preset is gone and i have no throwball, i typically have a piece of paracord with me, and fashion an emergency throwball. I find that pretty reliable too.
But a 50ft length of throwline and a 16oz ball is what i have been using for years. Practice on an easy tree.
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I whole heartedly agree. If I’m carrying a rope I’m almost always carrying my throw line and throwball, it’s such a compact addition. Getting a rope or throw line stuck is a supreme PITA. I also usually carry a back up throwball. Being able to identify crotches and limbs that are prone to snagging a rope or throw line is an essential skill that requires a few infuriating experiences to acquire.
I Wanted to share an experience I had this year with this method.
I finally got some time away from work to get in some hunting this year so last Friday morning I go to an area I like to hunt during the rut and get setup.
I didn’t have a pre-set in the area but wanted to use this rope method and DRT climb so I found a tree at the crossing that has served me well in the past and got my rope over a limb about (18’) and got ready to climb.
Being this setup requires no metal I was extremely quite getting up to my hunting height about (12’) at about 6:45am and at 7:00am i shot a small 9 pointer at 10 yards and he was clueless to my whereabouts.
It was very satisfying to get a harvest using this method after working on it for sometime now and even though he isn’t my biggest buck by far it was rewarding to take him with a very minimalist setup without a pre-set rope.
What I take from this is some say it won’t work or you need to be 30” up and that just isn’t the case every time and every situation so if you find a method you like and trust use it and don’t worry about what the next guy thinks.
I finally got some time away from work to get in some hunting this year so last Friday morning I go to an area I like to hunt during the rut and get setup.
I didn’t have a pre-set in the area but wanted to use this rope method and DRT climb so I found a tree at the crossing that has served me well in the past and got my rope over a limb about (18’) and got ready to climb.
Being this setup requires no metal I was extremely quite getting up to my hunting height about (12’) at about 6:45am and at 7:00am i shot a small 9 pointer at 10 yards and he was clueless to my whereabouts.
It was very satisfying to get a harvest using this method after working on it for sometime now and even though he isn’t my biggest buck by far it was rewarding to take him with a very minimalist setup without a pre-set rope.
What I take from this is some say it won’t work or you need to be 30” up and that just isn’t the case every time and every situation so if you find a method you like and trust use it and don’t worry about what the next guy thinks.
How many tries to get it in the tree? Just asking. That's awesome BTW! Love it.
Got it on the first try which isn’t always the case but this hunt everything just all came together.
