BassboysLLP's ultimate platform

[g2outdoors]

I am thinking of making a quick bracket that fits the width of the post and will go below the top batwing. Just to hold the platform in place until you get it locked down. Should be cheap enough to leave in a tree that you plan on hunting again and have a few in your pack. This is not load bearing at all, just to free up your hands or chest, etc. I am thinking of a screw in, so that would be a problem for public land ( or is it really?) or maybe putting a spur like point may work too. Then you would only need one. I like the size of XOP and the system of camming it down, I just get annoyed with the balancing act of the initial attachment.

I use a rubber gear tie to hold the seat in place for transport. At hunting height, position your lineman belt right above where you want to hang your platform. Then wrap the gear tie around your LB. You're now hands free. It works great.

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[g2outdoors]

That's probably unclear.

The gear tie should be attached to your bracket or post and hang from your lineman belt. Make sense?

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[Arkrider]

I knew the two questionable areas over this concept design would be lateral side pressure and concerns over weight. I believe this is a great option if the platform had teeth instead of the post being the only contact for the tree, so it could be cammed hard into the tree. IMO, the key to any solid platform that I've ever been on, is a strong bite into the tree. Lone Wolf and XOP platforms have proven that. I love Ernie's platform made from the older style Lone Wolf seat. I can live with something like that for sure. I only wish it was a little wider but that's just me.

With that being said....I'm certainly ready to move forward with whatever we all decide. I do appreciate the kind words and feedback on my concept...let's keep pushing forward!

PS...Can someone please post a picture of the Klemz style platform? I've searched but I can't find it on my phone app.

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[Babshaft]

I knew the two questionable areas over this concept design would be lateral side pressure and concerns over weight. I believe this is a great option if the platform had teeth instead of the post being the only contact for the tree, so it could be cammed hard into the tree. IMO, the key to any solid platform that I've ever been on, is a strong bite into the tree. Lone Wolf and XOP platforms have proven that. I love Ernie's platform made from the older style Lone Wolf seat. I can live with something like that for sure. I only wish it was a little wider but that's just me.

With that being said....I'm certainly ready to move forward with whatever we all decide. I do appreciate the kind words and feedback on my concept...let's keep pushing forward!

PS...Can someone please post a picture of the Klemz style platform? I've searched but I can't find it on my phone app.

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I believe this is the klemz.

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[Arkrider]

Ah....thanks! Yeah, that's the one that Ernie made up and I do like it. I wish it had a little more side profile on it but as the old saying goes...beggars can't be choosers. Lol

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[Babshaft]

Ah....thanks! Yeah, that's the one that Ernie made up and I do like it. I wish it had a little more side profile on it but as the old saying goes...beggars can't be choosers. Lol

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I’m not sure, but I believe it’s BassboyLLP’s. I took that picture from the beast and it was him who posted it. In the thread Klemz gave him props for it. That’s why I believe it to be the Klemz.

Slightly bigger side profile seems to be the biggest demand so far.

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[BenG]

Has anyone tried welding a v bracket onto the xop seat? Or is the xop just too big it’s out of the question?

 

[BenG]

Another thing I was looking at was the hand climber top. It just needs some tabs so it can attach to the bottom of a post. Well maybe, if the v on the climber seat is deep enough to work in the same manner as the klemz. I thought about cutting part of an xop with the tabs and welding it to the hand climber seat so you can attach it to the bottom of a post. And then cut the platform size of the climber seat down, which I don’t know if this weakens it too much. Just some thoughts on the matter, I too like the concept of the klemz. I know the thread started heading in a different direction but just curious if anyone has tried something like this or thought about it?

 

[20ftup]

Another thing I was looking at was the hand climber top. It just needs some tabs so it can attach to the bottom of a post. Well maybe, if the v on the climber seat is deep enough to work in the same manner as the klemz. I thought about cutting part of an xop with the tabs and welding it to the hand climber seat so you can attach it to the bottom of a post. And then cut the platform size of the climber seat down, which I don’t know if this weakens it too much. Just some thoughts on the matter, I too like the concept of the klemz. I know the thread started heading in a different direction but just curious if anyone has tried something like this or thought about it?

XOP Climber seat as climber and platform?
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[sb220]

Another thing I was looking at was the hand climber top. It just needs some tabs so it can attach to the bottom of a post. Well maybe, if the v on the climber seat is deep enough to work in the same manner as the klemz. I thought about cutting part of an xop with the tabs and welding it to the hand climber seat so you can attach it to the bottom of a post. And then cut the platform size of the climber seat down, which I don’t know if this weakens it too much. Just some thoughts on the matter, I too like the concept of the klemz. I know the thread started heading in a different direction but just curious if anyone has tried something like this or thought about it?

ive done both methods with the climber top. With the belt and kept it as a climber and without the belt to resemble an assassin stand. Previos pics were all on photobucket and poofed

It works fine either way....climbing with the top is a younger man's thing though. Its tough on the abs when you have to adjust belt length



The first concept, the post doesn't extend into the stand grating...nothing stops the post from swiveling a full 180+ degrees. It does cam lock, but relies on the climber belt to keep the stand from falling below 90 degrees

Then I decided to make more of a klemz/assassin stand so I removed the belt/belt-arms and cut the sandwich plates to extended the bar into the grating and work out a 90 degree stop.

 

[Ken Ruppel]

What is the preferred design, post above or below the platform. What does the klemz platform measure and how much wider/longer would everyone add to it?

 

[BenG]

ive done both methods with the climber top. With the belt and kept it as a climber and without the belt to resemble an assassin stand. Previos pics were all on photobucket and poofed

It works fine either way....climbing with the top is a younger man's thing though. Its tough on the abs when you have to adjust belt length



The first concept, the post doesn't extend into the stand grating...nothing stops the post from swiveling a full 180+ degrees. It does cam lock, but relies on the climber belt to keep the stand from falling below 90 degrees

Then I decided to make more of a klemz/assassin stand so I removed the belt/belt-arms and cut the sandwich plates to extended the bar into the grating and work out a 90 degree stop.

Thanks sb, that’s almost exactly what I was looking for! Does that platform get rock solid? Anything you don’t like about it? Any reason this didn’t catch on?

Other thing I was thinking was cutting the sides in to make it smaller but It could possibly weaken it too much.

 

[sb220]

Thanks sb, that’s almost exactly what I was looking for! Does that platform get rock solid? Anything you don’t like about it? Any reason this didn’t catch on?

Other thing I was thinking was cutting the sides in to make it smaller but It could possibly weaken it too much.

Using the post along with the climbing belt was great. Rock solid

The "assassin" style was solid too, but cam locking puts a lot of pressure on everything. I'm not sure how long those 1/4" aluminum hinges would hold up. Also I'm not sure how much pressure that part of the seat grating is meant to handle. Clearly they beefed up the sides to handle the weight of the climber belt arms

If I remember correctly my bolt assembly developed a creak after a few uses, which was rather annoying, but welding it would solve that

I eventually found a klemz seat on craigslist so I haven't used the climber seat since, but it is big and comfortable.
As to why it didn't catch on....its not the easisest thing to make, unless you have some decent shop tools.

 

[Mag1]

If you guys need any 3D modeling help, let me know, that’s all I do, sand cast/lost foam/ injection molded parts, for the last 20+years. I’m using PTC Creo, (pro-engineer). I know B15 probably has it all under control, but if you need more, help, I’m open to it.

 

[love2huntnfish]

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[Mag1]

I'm not sure what the guys are working on for their platform, but after noodling around for a bit, watching video's of how guys move around the tree, but yet not using a saddle or platform yet myself, this is an idea I came up with. It would need tweaking I am sure, FEA would tell where its not strong enough, due to standing out on an edge, etc... It would need a leveling screw, maybe more teeth, ect... I liked the idea of the angled portions for when you are off to a side, you have something to wedge yourself against. Its all together possible that the other designs (old LW seat, etc) are simpler, and maybe work better. Anyways, I just thought I'd spend an couple of lunch hours playing around. tube and casting came in at .7kilograms (1.5lbs) for aluminum. no hardware, main center ribs are .125 wide, outer ribs are .25, and a couple of heavy xsec. where some of the ribs meet.

 

[sb220]

I'm not sure what the guys are working on for their platform, but after noodling around for a bit, watching video's of how guys move around the tree, but yet not using a saddle or platform yet myself, this is an idea I came up with. It would need tweaking I am sure, FEA would tell where its not strong enough, due to standing out on an edge, etc... It would need a leveling screw, maybe more teeth, ect... I liked the idea of the angled portions for when you are off to a side, you have something to wedge yourself against. Its all together possible that the other designs (old LW seat, etc) are simpler, and maybe work better. Anyways, I just thought I'd spend an couple of lunch hours playing around. tube and casting came in at .7lb for aluminum. no hardware, main center ribs are .125 wide, outer ribs are .25, and a couple of heavy xsec. where some of the ribs meet.

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looks like a really cool platform shape. you need to work on those tree teeth though. if you could factor in two of those big teeth on each side, angling deeper into the tree.
Then I guess you gotta do those metal stress tests.
Looks like a cool concept though and honestly hard to believe you haven't used a saddle

 

[Mag1]

I've been using my LW Alpha Assault from '06', tweaking and never even heard of a saddle before this year. Not sure why, I been on the Beast since the Blood Bro. days. See, you learn something new all the time. I'd need to look at my LW more, and tweak the teeth closer to those, just a quick concept. Can't wait to see what the experts here come up with though. If B15 and Bass are on it, it should be good, and well thought out.

 

[sb220]

The klemz is honestly just a tad too small. If they simply make it a slightly larger profile, it will be perfect

I would buy one of those you posted above for sure though

 

[Mag1]

I was kind of wondering about that. It's very straight forward, small, and looks to be pretty light. The issue with the one I drew up, would be fairly wide and might be a pain to pack, it still should fit between most guys shoulders width wise, but the whole idea here is to be as light weight as possible for our long walks in.