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Bear Trouble

Car7x

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I have a place in SW MT, dozen miles S of Ennis, Gravelly Range. I was out for the 3 weeks leading into mid September, between scouting and getting setup at the cabin. The bear activity out there is off the charts.

My neighbor at my place in Bozeman had a friend who had to donate his bull opening week to a Griz, about 20 minutes back from Ennis (Meadow) Lake. That was the only incident of the 5 I heard of that involved meat. The other 4 were just unprovoked attacks. 3 guys in 2 separate attacks in Cottonwood Creek (W side of the S Gravellys, up from the Ruby side) on the same day was probably the most publicized report. There are public hearings there now on the whole issue.

I only saw one a couple miles up behind the cabin, towards Virginia City, and 3 different days we could literally smell bear further S. Not to mention vast amounts of scat and grubbed up logs. The heaviest sign was in a BMA section on private, surrounded by sagebrush flats and bordered by a recreational lake and campgrounds less than a mile - halfway to Yellowstone from Ennis. I had thought that a pretty safe place to take my first time western hunt guys, but the bears have apparently had no problem crossing the open range, I assume from Yellowstone area. Beetlekill and burns offer a lot of grub opportunity, and we think they like the willows too.

Between that area and Ennis, there was a big cattle die off - they got into larkspur, poisoned themselves, and FWP closed off all trails into a big section due to bears feeding on the carcasses. Of course, where I had planned to hunt. Last year, fire, this year bear...my scouting away from the cabin hasn't been too productive... Anyway, climbing out of a drainage we stopped to chat with a CO on top, and he said they counted either 7 or 9 griz in a 2 hour flyover. (He knew the number, obviously, but I forget; lots of bear talk this season.)

Bulls were quiet for the most part, and even in areas of heavy elk (and bear, especially in this BMA) we saw few elk. Deemos, the butcher in Ennis, has a shop on the major highway corner, with a hanging/skinning shed on the side of the building. So whenever I drive by, I can see how folks are doing. Didn't see a critter hanging there ever, first 2 weeks of the season.

Everyone has their own system and mentality about the bear issue. I carry spray in a left pack waistband holster, and practice with both hands. Bear loads in a .44 in a chest rig under my bino harness. While I am actually selling my saddle setup now, the system and mentality we developed for the backcountry could easily be adapted to a system for setting and climbing the rig in bear country. All travel in bear country calls for situational awareness, constant observation, and practice. In our hunting group, we discussed strategies for not shooting each other. Everyone trained in on my InReach for emergencies, and we each carried QuikClot in our stripped down first aid kits.

For run-and-gun hunting, setting up posts, stopping to glass or rest, etc., we made sure that we had good footing, good visibility, pack/bow/quiver deployed not just for shooting elk but arranged for emergencies. Depending on the layout I usually brought my spray-side belt around to the side I was sitting or standing, propped up and slid a little out of the holster. While on post,resting, eating, etc.,I never took off the magnum, and usually released the velcro hammer strap on the MR holster.

So, while I am regrettably going to take a (hopefully temporary) hiatus from saddlehunting, if I were doing it in bear country I would modify my process so that I was never without a big handgun I can shoot and spray. I would have both always available while setting up, climbing, and hunting from my rig. In the duffel is no good.

Initiating my younger family guys into this, we went to the range, shot a lot, and practiced drawing and deploying the bear spray either hand. I kept spare spray in the truck and UTV. I attended a bear spray seminar at the P&Y conference in Omaha this spring, and while I thought I already knew effective use, I learned a lot.

Spray is correctly thought to be effective, but the bear has to get it in their face. Be wind aware. I used to discount the possibility of an attack from downwind, in the absence of meat - no longer; too many unprovoked 'meatless' attacks. The seminar speaker pointed out that what you want is a 'wall' of spray, down low, between you and the bear. He did not discourage firearms; upwind, sidewind, heavy brush or other location vagaries, and your team's array all matter and could render spray useless.

Flyfishing for steelhead and salmon, I spend time in bear country. Air travel, or the time I've had guides, prevented me carrying a handgun. My comfort level was much higher in AK, northern AB, or on the S Fork of the Flathead for example, than in SW MT this year. Perhaps it's archery season and the onset of hyperphagia, perhaps the bears around Yellowstone are getting too bold from familiarity, maybe the wilderness bears are just more sensitive to sound and scent. Whatever it is, at least in SW MT, the stakes are higher now and you can't be too careful - head on a swivel!
 
Yup, bears are unpredictable and will do what bears do. Know why? Because they are bears. Unfortunately how we get to deal them is dictated by the masses that have zero knowledge about bears. The outcome of which is very predictable.

Norkal
 
Great post thanks. I hunted elk in West Yellowstone a couple years ago and always had a sidearm and two cans of spray. Hunted a couple times from the same trailhead where Todd Orr got attacked. Luckily never saw a bear but always looking over my shoulder.

What are your feelings on the deferred/cancelled grizzly hunt?
 
I’m not sure I’ve got the nerves for hunts in those woods.
 
Great post thanks. I hunted elk in West Yellowstone a couple years ago and always had a sidearm and two cans of spray. Hunted a couple times from the same trailhead where Todd Orr got attacked. Luckily never saw a bear but always looking over my shoulder.

What are your feelings on the deferred/cancelled grizzly hunt?

My personal code is to eat what I kill, excepting varmints/pests, which I don't pursue for sport but dispatch humanely when necessary. I'm not up to speed on the details of the hunt referred to, but the excerpt below from a post I made awhile back on rokslide sums up my current thinking.

"I wouldn't want to live in a world without grizzlies, and don't want to be killed by or have to kill one. I'm like the rest of us experts, have an opinion. There should be a season, to get the numbers in line, in areas they present a threat or evidence of abundance.

I do question the frequently heard statement that hunting them will make them scared of humans; they aren't herd critters, after all. If I shoot Joe Griz over here I'm not sure Suzy Griz will get the memo over there."

We are now the apex predator on land - except in bear country. My view is that occupying that niche, whether sought after or stumbled into, requires us to thoughtfully and ethically be responsible in management of the resource. I think there should be room for bear, wolves, cats and coyotes - and I am a retired cattleman, amongst other work - but humans have the right to self defense, and a responsibility to keep numbers in check. In my perfect world, that would mean not just populations controlled high and low enough, but ecosystem stewardship that insures thrivability for all we have left, for future generations.
 
Car 7x,
Well put.
When I was a kid/young adult I worked as a gunner for a surveyor crew up north. I never had to kill any of the bears I had incidents with, Browns, inland Grizzlies or Black bears. These critters know exactly what we are, hunted or not. There are incidents of attacks that seem easy to explain such as getting in between momma and her cub/s, stumbling upon a kill the animal is still sitting on, etc. Then there are the not so easy to explain “unprovoked” attacks. Bears are bears. I wish their behavior was easy to predict and explain but that isn’t the case. What I do know is the wilderness wouldn’t be the wilderness without them and the other critters God intended to be there. Like it or not there must be human interaction to insure the balance of all wildlife is maintained within an ecosystem. When the wildlife “experts” decisions get overruled by judges the very thing the judges think they are helping end up worse off in the long run.

Norkal
 
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