Biners I use .. question?

[Bowtech12]

These are the 2 biners I use
My tether has the tethrd one I hit 2 years ago
The black 1 is for my lineman’s belt. I believe it came with my sit and climb lw tree stand

any thoughts on these two? Safety wise??

 

[Exhumis]

Tethrd one is good, that black one I’d ditch personally. I like my biners to be screw gate at the least or some kind of locking mechanism like an auto lock or mag lock. Before switching to those too many times I’d catch my biners with something stuck in the gate. I religiously check them but I like having the extra insurance policy.

 

[raisins]

These are the 2 biners I use
My tether has the tethrd one I hit 2 years ago
The black 1 is for my lineman’s belt. I believe it came with my sit and climb lw tree stand

any thoughts on these two? Safety wise??

do not use a nonlocking carabiner at all.....let alone of questionable origin

ONLY climbing rated carabiners from reputable climbing companies.....i certainly don't consider the lone wolf one reputable and i'd only trust the tethrd one if another company made it and then tethrd slapped their name on it....the forging and heat treat process for a good 'biner is NOT something tethrd can do

i'd toss both and buy screw lock carabiners from petzl....it's less than 30 bucks....please


i can use just the rope and undo a nonlocking carabiner in 1 second....climbers only use them when they have tons in a row and can afford one to not hold and they also know how to clip them properly to minimize that....and they'd never use a nonlocking one to clip to a harness or where a single point of failure would cause a fall

 

[raisins]

do not use a nonlocking carabiner at all.....let alone of questionable origin

ONLY climbing rated carabiners from reputable climbing companies.....i certainly don't consider the lone wolf one reputable and i'd only trust the tethrd one if another company made it and then tethrd slapped their name on it....the forging and heat treat process for a good 'biner is NOT something tethrd can do

i'd toss both and buy screw lock carabiners from petzl....it's less than 30 bucks....please


i can use just the rope and undo a nonlocking carabiner in 1 second....climbers only use them when they have tons in a row and can afford one to not hold and they also know how to clip them properly to minimize that....and they'd never use a nonlocking one to clip to a harness or where a single point of failure would cause a fall

@Nutterbuster has a video where he shows how easily a rope can get doubled onto a carabiner and unlock it....i can't find it though on his youtube channel...maybe he'll see this and drop a link

all you have to do is pull one side of the rope in the direction the other side came from (putting it over the gate) and then pull....and the rope comes out like trick handcuffs

 

[Bowtech12]

do not use a nonlocking carabiner at all.....let alone of questionable origin

ONLY climbing rated carabiners from reputable climbing companies.....i certainly don't consider the lone wolf one reputable and i'd only trust the tethrd one if another company made it and then tethrd slapped their name on it....the forging and heat treat process for a good 'biner is NOT something tethrd can do

i'd toss both and buy screw lock carabiners from petzl....it's less than 30 bucks....please


i can use just the rope and undo a nonlocking carabiner in 1 second....climbers only use them when they have tons in a row and can afford one to not hold and they also know how to clip them properly to minimize that....and they'd never use a nonlocking one to clip to a harness or where a single point of failure would cause a fall

What biners would you recommend?

 

[Exhumis]

Here’s a video of a gate being pushed open.

Could easily happen in our situations where multiple ropes are used and you’re twisting to take a shot.

 

[Exhumis]

What biners would you recommend?

Anything locking from a reputable source like EWO, REI, Wesspur, or right from a climbing manufacturer like Kong, Petzl, Black Diamond, Wild Country, etc.
Also, research your application and functionality. For example if you’re going to use a manual ascender like the Mammut Smart they recommend HMS style biners only. This is due to locking and braking function. If you use a different style biner the device won’t work as advertised. Kong Ducks work well with oval biners like Kongs own biner and they will work with some pear biners but those can also cause binding during rotation or after a shift when your tether/linemans belt isn’t loaded.

 

[Bowtech12]

Ok
I looked at Petzl on Amazon but none of them have a weight rating? Should that be listed? These are the locking ones

 

[Hall17]

These are my favorites

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[Hall17]

Well if that didn’t work it’s the Petzel OK carabiner

 

[Exhumis]

Ok
I looked at Petzl on Amazon but none of them have a weight rating? Should that be listed? These are the locking ones

Others have strong opinions on this and I do as well. DO NOT buy anything from Amazon or eBay you’ll be trusting your life to. Amazon is full of counterfeit goods which I have been the victim of first hand. Go to rei website and buy one from them or another climbing website. And yes any reputable TESTED, climb rated carabiner should have the standards in it unless it’s a manufacturer branded biner like tethrd.

 

[Bowtech12]

This one?

 

[Hall17]

That’s what I personally like

 

[Bowtech12]

So no Amazon on this stuff?

 

[Exhumis]

Correct

 

[Exhumis]

What biners would you recommend?

Here’s what I use/have used:

Kong Carabiner – Oval Alu Classic

Kong carabiner – Oval Alu Classic Screw Sleeve. Recommended for use with the Kong Duck.

doublesteps.com

Black Diamond LiteForge Screwgate Carabiner

The LiteForge Screwgate carabiner is our ultra-light keylock screwgate built for light and fast missions. The LiteForge is a dependable locker that’s perfect for climbing when every gram counts. Ac…

doublesteps.com

Element Locking Carabiner | Metolius Climbing

Love This : Element Locking Carabiner

www.metoliusclimbing.com

ASCENT HMS

The Ascent HMS is an adaptable all-rounder: a strong, stylish choice for belayers.

www.wildcountry.com

Mammut Smart HMS Locking Carabiner with Safety Gate | REI Co-op

The Mammut Smart HMS Locking Carabiner with safety gate stays properly oriented on your harness while you belay your partner indoors at the climbing gym or outdoors at the sport climbing crag.

www.rei.com

 

[Dmathews87]

So no Amazon on this stuff?

I tend to stay away from amazon with safety gear as theres a chance for chinese knock offs. Order straight from a reputable manufacturers site or some where like eastern outdoors.

 

[Bowtech12]

The dimensions on this is 5”x4x1 seems big

 

[raisins]

What biners would you recommend?

screw lock petzls are my favorite

Petzl Screw-lock Carabiners | REI Co-op

Shop for Petzl Screw-lock Carabiners at REI - FREE SHIPPING With $50 minimum purchase. Curbside Pickup Available NOW! 100% Satisfaction Guarantee

www.rei.com

 

[raisins]

The dimensions on this is 5”x4x1 seems big

go to petzl or a reputable site and look at specs and make sure that you aren't reading the package dimensions.....petzls, for example, come with literature clipped to them and some folks might have them in a box

click on any of these to see petzl specs

Carabiners And Quickdraws - Petzl USA | Sport

Petzl USA. All equipped with the Keylock system, Petzl carabiners come in different shapes, sizes and locking systems to meet a variety of usage needs. When you pick up a Petzl carabiner, you can feel the high level of quality and craftsmanship!

www.petzl.com

here's what i'm using this year

Sm'D (USA) - Carabiners-And-Quickdraws | Petzl USA

Petzl USA. Highly versatile, lightweight, compact, D-shaped locking carabiner

www.petzl.com

no aluminum carabiner for climbing is going to be big....all (except if they are some specialty item they'll tell you about) will easily fit in your palm