Breaking stuff!!! Is it this Sit, or a Drag?

[DIYSaddler]

So I've been watching all the Sit-Drag conversation over the last couple months and I'm truly impressed with the uniqueness and the innovation in everyone's approach to their Sit-Drag rigs. They all hold a bit of everyone's on personality in them and you just don't seem to get that with store bought items these day.

Now that you've made this cool thing and left a little piece of your self in it. Has anyone tried to break one just to see how much it will take?

 

[bowhunter15]

I have not, although it's quite possible the SitDrag with it's "300 pound weight limit" is the weakest link in my setup. On one of the YouTube videos showcasing the SitDrag at an expo, the guy in the booth said they tested it at over 800 pounds and didn't try for higher. I'd probably have a challenging enough time breaking my setup unless I wrapped the Sitdrag around a telephone pole and the tether on my ball hitch and started driving my truck away. :lol:

 

[flinginairos]

I think the SD is a little stronger than we all think. I tied off to the beam in my basement and was practically falling with my full weight into in and couldn't break a single stitch on it :lol:

 

[g2outdoors]

On one of the YouTube videos showcasing the SitDrag at an expo, the guy in the booth said they tested it at over 800 pounds and didn't try for higher.

I remember this video. I tried to break it by standing on the seat and pulling as hard as I could on the webbing loops. I ran a shovel handle through the loops for extra leverage and not even a single stitch budged. Obviously this is super unscientific, but that's more pressure than it would see in a hunting scenario.

I agree with Flingin that this thing is safe. If someone gets hurt, I think it will be due to user error before mechanical failure.

 

[DIYSaddler]

I would like to test it for shock loads specifically. I've been thinking about replacing the leg loops on my saddle with the Sit-Drag. There's been a couple times this year where I got my rope rigged over a small branch I couldn't see then after bouncing on it a couple times I thought I was good. Then @ 6'-8' up it finally has enough and I drop about 2' or so. Talk about an instant heart attack. Anyway right now I weigh about 225lbs(Hey I'm a Kilonewton!) and I'm curious if my girth dropping a few feet could do it in. I've seen load testing video where they are dropping a 175lb weight and breaking slings you would think should hold.

 

[g2outdoors]

I'd like to see the results of that test as well.

I agree with you - breaking strength is quite different than shock loads.

 

[plainsman]

Keep us informed. Interesting thoughts. I usually will not go over 80% of the max working load on anything I am relying on to keep me safe. To much oil and gas mentality I guess.

 

[g2outdoors]

Keep us informed. Interesting thoughts. I usually will not go over 80% of the max working load on anything I am relying on to keep me safe. To much oil and gas mentality I guess.

That's sound advice for sure.

 

[noxninja]

+1

I think the SD is a little stronger than we all think. I tied off to the beam in my basement and was practically falling with my full weight into in and couldn't break a single stitch on it :lol:

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[DaveT1963]

A free fall of just 2 feet causing a tremendous amount of force. Google dyneema sling breakage on you tube - there are some videos of how easily these slings snap with that force. If you are free falling 2 feet and hit the end of a non stretch sling you are going to be hurting.

The best thing you can do is to ALWAYS keep your tether tight - and this includes going up sticks with a lineman's belt.

 

[flinginairos]

A free fall of just 2 feet causing a tremendous amount of force. Google dyneema sling breakage on you tube - there are some videos of how easily these slings snap with that force. If you are free falling 2 feet and hit the end of a non stretch sling you are going to be hurting.

The best thing you can do is to ALWAYS keep your tether tight - and this includes going up sticks with a lineman's belt.

Yep! You should never put yourself into position where you can fall very far. As saddle hunters ours falls would end up being more of a "swing" if the tether is always kept pretty tight.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

Yep. One of the main reasons why I don't use Dyneema for any part of one stick ascent. There is plenty of slack during the climb.

 

[DaveT1963]

I think it funny how so many talk about safety of the saddle. While that is important it is probably not the weakest link in the event of a fall.

I am currently working on a very minimalist saddle with nothing but 2 inch nylon or polyester and thread. There wont be any other material on it and the bridge will be fixed and continuous (i.e. part of the saddle design). My tether will be a rope and probably going back to prussic as I am not sure the ropeman would survive a real drop? I just don't adjust my prussic all that much while using my platform - I know where I like it and since I moved it to chin height it is relatively easy to take the load off and move it. I will probably keep the ropeman on my lineman's belt though and will use only one carbineer on my lineman's belt (the other side will be semi-fixed with a loop on it and run through itself after passing it through the loop on my saddle). I am still debating a rock harness but where I am right now I just don't see it adding any real advantage if I keep my tether tight at all times (I don't do the one stick method - not sure I will ?).

 

[parkersdad]

I'm thinking about using my Lonewolf alpha bottom and my sit drag. I will climb the tree using the Alpha base and then sliding the sit drag up


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[essdub]

Re: RE: Re: Breaking stuff!!! Is it this Sit, or a Drag?

I'm thinking about using my Lonewolf alpha bottom and my sit drag. I will climb the tree using the Alpha base and then sliding the sit drag up


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I've seen it done with other saddles.
I'm sure it's a good plan.
I, too want a better platform to stand on, but don't want to spend that much money to buy one of those.

Shaun

 

[parkersdad]

I have three of them so it will not cost me any more money


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[DIYSaddler]

I was going to use the seat and top portion of my old cheap wally world stand but then I found out last week someone stole my buddies stand so I gave mine to him.