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Broadhead test pack

Red Beard

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Assembling a few thoughts from other threads here...

1. Recently, many more thinkers have begun to consider Dr. Ashby's data.
2. Some of us are currently testing multiple combinations to find our personal hunting arrow setup. Some have already completed that testing.
3. Ethics field point test packs are a ridiculously cost effective way to quickly weed through a few variables.
4. Broadheads are expensive and are most often sold in packs of three. COC broadheads are even more expensive. Some brands of COCs are experiencing production saddle-like wait times.
5. @always89y is AWESOME. His creation/implementation of "Sally Saddle" not only helped to bolster comradery here on the forum, but is also giving a few folks the opportunity to OPTEST an idea prior to going all in.

All this made me think, would anyone be willing to help me put together a broadhead test pack for use by Saddle Hunter members on the quest for their hunting arrow holy grail? A mail-around "Betty Broadhead" pack may be able to help individuals within the community answer questions about their setups prior to spending a few more hundred dollars. Ex - After personally holding a 275gr and 300gr a field tip in my hand, I immediately put the 200, 225, and 250gr heads back in the bag, presumably never to be used again.

I think any party interested in testing with Betty would need to agree to a few common courtesies. Ground rules could be: you break it-you bought it, testing with a field tip test pack should be completed to establish correct spine/POI prior to requesting the broadhead test pack, max of 5 days with the merch, etc.

Thoughts? Who's got a Maasai, Iron Will, Ashby 315, Tuffhead, Alaskan, Bishop, Bone, or Samurai to throw in the mix?
 

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I'm interested, but sadly have nothing you are looking for to contribute. I do have a 125 grain annihilator that I would be willing to contribute for those interested in heavier arrow setups with smaller broadheads (200 grain ethics insert with 125 grain broadhead still gets you to 325 grains).

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Interested, following, currently dont have any of those heads. I would be willing to purchase one of the sets to contribute to a test pack, so I wouldn't have to buy all the rest to test.
 

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Great idea! I'm interested but don't have any of those heads...yet. I do have some Magnus black hornet ser razor 125's and some buzz cut 150's that I could pass around for anyone wanting a good budget friendly option (ranch fairy approved)
 

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As is the case with everyone else, I don't have any you want. I have some rage mechanicals and Lazer 2s I would contribute
 

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Alas, I'm following as well but also do not have the heads you mention. I think this is a great idea!!!
 

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I too am on the quest but do not have any heavier than 150 but when I get something I would be willing to help! Following!!!!
 

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Good deal guys! Wonderful buy-in! This is exactly what I hoped would happen. :) Think all we need to do now is decide who's buying a three pack of what and sending one to me to begin the rotation. Ha! Seriously though, there are seven of us showing interest so far. We could have a great test kit even if we were the only ones!

I am personally leaning toward the design/price point of Maasai 200s. As such, one of those will be my gift to Betty.

Do ya'll think shooting for mid-March as kick-off date is too aggressive? That may be enough time to procure our contributions and get them mailed to a central starting point. Thoughts?
 

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I am going to build heavy arrows as well. I am getting the field point test kit,but i am not sure i will go with the super heavy broadheads you mentioned. I am leaning towards getting the front weight by using heavy inserts and a 150 grain BH.
I am just curious why the need to test different broadheads if you get the arrow to fly true with the field tips?
 

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If there's enough people interested in testing UEFOC Bishop single bevels and contributing some cash for the test pack, I have a brand new 315 grain single bevel Bishop and a used 175 grain that can be bought for the pack. They cost $110. Each! These are the "cheaper" Bridgeport 41L40 tool steel lol. I'm sold on these broadheads so not looking to be part of the test pack rounds but figured I'd put this out there since it's one that RF always raves about and would be a cheaper way for a bunch of folks to get their hands on one and see if they like it. Wallet warning: You might end up owning a few after you shoot them.

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Great idea ya got here @Red Beard, interested and following. I don't have any to contribute unless someone is interested in a NAP spitfire or rage flapper.
 

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I am just curious why the need to test different broadheads if you get the arrow to fly true with the field tips?
This is a GREAT question Mike!

We can all agree that our specific setups are "tuned" to varying tolerances. We start with bows and arrows that are as close to factory spec as possible. Then, we make adjustments from there to suit our individual styles and/or overcome individual handicaps (read: shot form intricacies). As a result, what one may consider to be an specific arrow flying true out of a specific bow (as determined by subjectively gauging a particular grouping of arrows), another may not. I.e., <1.5 inch groupings at 25yds may be close enough for shooter A to deem an arrow "quiver-worthy", while shooter B tunes until achieving touching arrows at 20yds. Add into the calculus variables like the EZV sight, which was not designed to enable spot shooting results, and the validity of a "true flying arrow" may need to be interpreted after many arrow groupings.

My initial thought in being able to compare a few broadheads side-by-side is to afford folks the opportunity to gain a first hand understanding of the effects a given broadhead has on THIER tuned arrows. Differences in arrow rotation applied by single-bevels vs. double-bevels, how a bleeder blade interacts with my 2 inch Blazers vs your 4 inch feathers... these are questions we can only accurately answer with hands-on experience.
 

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This is a GREAT question Mike!

We can all agree that our specific setups are "tuned" to varying tolerances. We start with bows and arrows that are as close to factory spec as possible. Then, we make adjustments from there to suit our individual styles and/or overcome individual handicaps (read: shot form intricacies). As a result, what one may consider to be an specific arrow flying true out of a specific bow (as determined by subjectively gauging a particular grouping of arrows), another may not. I.e., <1.5 inch groupings at 25yds may be close enough for shooter A to deem an arrow "quiver-worthy", while shooter B tunes until achieving touching arrows at 20yds. Add into the calculus variables like the EZV sight, which was not designed to enable spot shooting results, and the validity of a "true flying arrow" may need to be interpreted after many arrow groupings.

My initial thought in being able to compare a few broadheads side-by-side is to afford folks the opportunity to gain a first hand understanding of the effects a given broadhead has on THIER tuned arrows. Differences in arrow rotation applied by single-bevels vs. double-bevels, how a bleeder blade interacts with my 2 inch Blazers vs your 4 inch feathers... these are questions we can only accurately answer with hands-on experience.
That makes sense,thanks. I guess i fall in the category of getting things very close to perfect,not absolutely. I tuned the heck out of my used bow i purchased last year,but i think i didnt go quite far enough. The broadheads and lighted nock combo made the arrows behave a little different. I am shooting a super light arrow, I was shocked when i weighed one. Barely at 350 grains.
My bow shop owner is all about speed,but i will go the opposite direction this year.
I am looking to build an arrow with around 20% FOC and weighing in between 550 and 600 grains.
And i am definetely going to a two blade single bevel broadhead.
Two years ago i shot a doe in the hig shoulder/spine and lost her due to my inexperience. She was stunned for a few seconds and i missed the chance to shoot her again. Her butt was facing towards me,but i should have shot anyway.
After that experience i think i am overcompensating,on both does last season i hit too far back because i am afraid of the shoulder. I recovered both,but they didn't die nearly as fast as they should have.
With my new set up i will not aim for the shoulder but i will not be afraid of it either.
I will probably end up with a grizzly 150 g broadhead.
 

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I guess i fall in the category of getting things very close to perfect,not absolutely. I tuned the heck out of my used bow i purchased last year,but i think i didnt go quite far enough. The broadheads and lighted nock combo made the arrows behave a little different. I am shooting a super light arrow, I was shocked when i weighed one. Barely at 350 grains.
My bow shop owner is all about speed,but i will go the opposite direction this year.
I am looking to build an arrow with around 20% FOC and weighing in between 550 and 600 grains.
Think this is exactly the same song many of us are singing Mike. :) Sounds like you're a perfect candidate for the test pack!
 

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I am going to build heavy arrows as well. I am getting the field point test kit,but i am not sure i will go with the super heavy broadheads you mentioned. I am leaning towards getting the front weight by using heavy inserts and a 150 grain BH.
I am just curious why the need to test different broadheads if you get the arrow to fly true with the field tips?
Good point ....... . The heavy arrow game is all about tip weight, arrow spine and your bow. A set of bare shafts and heavyweight field points might be a better starting point for guys just starting out.
 

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Received great feedback from a few folks and decided to start a sign-up/wish list. Hopefully more will be able to help fill in the blanks below. Let me know if you have a desire to participate! :)

COCs
Annihilator: @Navy Chief
Bishop:
Bone 200: @ericabbott (received)
Cutthroat:
Eclipse LH 125: @Allegheny Tom (received, actual weight 134gr)
G5 Montec: @ericabbott (received)
Grizzly 200: @Weldabeast (received)
Grizzly 260: @AKMonkey (received)
Grizzlystik Alaskan:
Grizzlystik Ashby 315:
Grizzlystik Maasai:
Grizzlystik Samurai:
Iron Will:
Magnus Black Hornet: @T.Clarke
Magnus Buzzcut: @T.Clarke
Magnus Stinger Killer Bee Buzz Cut 150: @Red Beard (received, actual weight 147.8gr)
Steel Force Premium 4 blade and 2 blade: @sdonx (received)
Tuffhead:
Zwickey Eskimo: @emrah.oruc.7

Flappers
NAP Spitfire: @slonstdy
Rage: @Exhumis
Ramcat: @Bwhana (received)
 
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