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buddy is new to hunting and annoying the heck out of me.....

Jimmy Wallhanger

Jimmy Wallhanger

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So Ive been bowhunting since 2013. First season was of course a disaster didn't see anything, second year I got a lone wolf climber and seen a bunch of does and shot two, felt great since then Ive worked hard, reading Eberharts books done alot of scouting on two public tracts etc.... I fell like Im a better then average bowhunter.

Enter my good friend this season, he tells me hes gonna start hunting I tell him wonderful and I can set him up in a spot dump a bag of corn and he can shoot a doe. he gets permission on two farms so we go to the first one to have a look, there is absolutely minimal deer sign the farm is a sod farm, and the forest section is a half dead evergreen forest with zero cover etc.... we set up cameras and get one buck coming into corn for two weeks then he vanishes.. this is in May. I tell him the farm is not a great deer spot but we good for turkeys. He gets mad at me stating that theres tons of homemade Treestand (which are all rotted) thus there has to be deer.

We go to the other farm its great a giant swamp, corn soybeans, etc. we spend a day setting up a stand for him in this giant twisted maple tree, its a nightmare, my friend is overweight so I have to do all the climbing which I dont mind but its difficult and I have to use screw in steps etc, the way I am climbing to hang the stand he could never do it. there is an old rotted wooden stand thatI have to destroy to get the new one in. I get the stand hanged after hours of navigating its a nightmare, but hes insistent this is the tree it needs to be in. Then I tell him we need to build a wooden ladder so he can climb into the tree safely. he is ADAMANT the old rusted piece of **** steel ladder thats about 5 feet high is good enough.and a ladder is a ladder... we argue about it for ever..... he ends up weeks later realizing Im right. then he wants to set up fake scrapes in the worst places and won't listen when I tell him this spot has zero deer traffic and this will not attract them..... he says Im always "****ting on his ideas"

He kind of jabs at me that hes gotten these great spots and Ive been hunting "forever" and only have public.... we have done no scouting on either properties because we wasted so much time with his nonsense.....

Bowhunting has always been something I've done alone and in all honestly could give two ****s about his farms and have two public parcels that Ive scouted the **** out of and really want to hunt alone..... my buddy has no drivers license and needs me for transportation....

I honestly love him to death but hate him as a hunting partner and want to go solo but dont know how to break it to him...... Im at the stage now where Im after a mature buck and dont want to have to go back to coaching someone through year one mistakes.... part of me wants to tell him "come talk to me when you've got one deer one the ground"

worst part is hes always saying " well according to Steve Renella" which drive me nuts as Steve Renalla does not hunt pressured mature buck with a bow... he does not understand these shows are not reality.....

I dont know how to break up with him but stay friends....I want to help him but he just does not listen,
 
Best advice I can give you is to let him do it his way if he insists, even if you know it's wrong or a waste of time. No sense ruining a friendship over differences of opinion. He will hopefully learn from his mistakes and realize you were only trying to help.
 
slonstdy said:
Best advice I can give you is to let him do it his way if he insists, even if you know it's wrong or a waste of time. No sense ruining a friendship over differences of opinion. He will hopefully learn from his mistakes and realize you were only trying to help.
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yeah, its just the ladder was a safety issue, Im just pissed Ive wasted all this tine I could have been using to improve my chances and my time is limited with all the other hobbies and family obligations. I feel like Im going to waste a season.
 
He's gotta make his own mistakes and learn from them. And it's not fair to expect a taxi service.

How close are these places to your places? Deer camp is communal, but archery hunting for whitetails is more of a solo thing. There's great shared experience in scouting and setting up spots withlike minded folks, in discussing, reviewing hunts and sharing experiences/excitement, and in working together on things like recovery, butchering, etc. Can you split off the good vs. Bad?

Be wary of setting up stands/presets for others. It's easy to default to what works for you, then spend way too much effort adapting for someone else. Sometimes a lazier path works best (e.g. i hate ladder stands but my wife loves them).

Nothing wrong with Rinella, unless your buddy is grossly misinterpreting him.
 
So hunt his 2 farms and don't take him to your honey hole until you get your buck... Your success will have him thinking differently
 
I was out when you added and has no license...omg
I have the opposite problem. And i think its worse...I introduced my buddy to hunting... now he shoots bigger deer than me and more often....lol
On a serious note Dan Infalt talks about choosing the right guys to hunt with. Not sure which of his dvds or youtube videos but its good advise.


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mattsteg said:
He's gotta make his own mistakes and learn from them. And it's not fair to expect a taxi service.

How close are these places to your places? Deer camp is communal, but archery hunting for whitetails is more of a solo thing. There's great shared experience in scouting and setting up spots withlike minded folks, in discussing, reviewing hunts and sharing experiences/excitement, and in working together on things like recovery, butchering, etc. Can you split off the good vs. Bad?

Be wary of setting up stands/presets for others. It's easy to default to what works for you, then spend way too much effort adapting for someone else. Sometimes a lazier path works best (e.g. i hate ladder stands but my wife loves them).

Nothing wrong with Rinella, unless your buddy is grossly misinterpreting him.
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The farms are very close to the public, like within a 15 min drive I dont mind driving him, hes a great friend just annoying me in this one area. I may just drop him off at the farms and hunt the public. I love Steve Renalla but he gun hunts in the remote wilderness... id rather listen to a hunting beast podcast.
 
That could be one of the best thread titles ever ha ha

Hey at least you won’t look back and say you didn’t try. You did the right thing.


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sdonx said:
I was out when you added and has no license...omg
I have the opposite problem. And i think its worse...I introduced my buddy to hunting... now he shoots bigger deer than me and more often....lol
On a serious note Dan Infalt talks about choosing the right guys to hunt with. Not sure which of his dvds or youtube videos but its good advise.


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Yeah bowhunting has always been my alone time and kind of me against nature.... Ive had people ask to hunt with my at my archery club and I flat out refused telling them I only hunt alone.
 
I enjoy hunting with my friends, we park at the same area talk about where we are going and go hunt, come out and go eat lunch and hang out. We do the same thing that evening, my friends have never been adamant about something to where we got in an argument about it,
 
Id call Dr Phil and see if he can fit you two in :) If he is a friend then you overlook the bad and focus on the good. If not, encourage him and let him go hunt where he wants - you are in control of your time and who you share it with (or don't share it with) - he is not at fault for wasting your time - you own that.
 
I think you should take the effort you're putting into mentoring your buddy, and put it into mentoring a child or teenager. For two reasons - the first, it will work on your patience, which you seem short of. (this isn't an insult, I'm the same way - and helping/coaching kids is about the only thing that slows me down. There simply isn't an option on being patient with kids - it's the only path to success). The second - is the obvious one - continuing a tradition of hunting with the next generation.

I'd keep your buddy around as a buddy. And I'd drink beer with him at the camp fire, and offer advice, and help drag deer and hang stands. But I wouldn't spend my daylight hours teaching someone who doesn't want to be taught. Life's too short.
 
That's a tough thing man. There's guys I hunt with that I don't hang out with and vice versa, not often are the two mutually exclusive, matter of fact I have two. As others have said, let your friend go his way and hunt his way, the proof will be in the pudding. If you value the friendship I'd say do it soon before the animosity sours the relationship.
And really, at the end of the day if he can't handle that and ends the friendship then I'd submit was he really that "good" of a friend to begin with?
 
Drop him off on his parcel and you go to the place you want. Tell him you’ll be back an hour after dark to get him. He can do his thing and you can do yours. If he’s ready to leave early he can call someone else to come get him. He’ll learn in time...


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I'm a hunting newb but this is why I don't have friends. I normally can't stand dumb people. On a side note because I don't have any good friends no one has ever offered to take me hunting. He doesn't realize the gift he was given.
 
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