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Climbing rope for tree access

GiGisDaddy said:
Thanks for the help, I am an older guy but very excited over the saddle and climbing method.

Would like everyone\anyone's opinion on climbing class from REI or such. There is an outdoors store nearby that has climbing classes often if there is interest.

Oh and what about a platform\ROS ? Is it a good idea?
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“Need” is a relative term but a platform or ROS is highly recommended! Both work, a lot of guys use both depending on the scenario. This is my first season in a saddle. I have a predator platform with a ROS on the way.

If SRT is your preferred method then the climbing class is certainly a good idea. Getting familiar with basic and safe rappelling techniques and knot tying is easier directly from a professional.


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After reading these 9 pages, I already had these items:

one regular ropeman
2 Ropeman 1's.
3 locking carabiners.

Yesterday I got my rope and foot ascender from Moosejaw. This is the rope: Black diamond 9.9mm with foot loop. I have the Petzl left hand ascention and the mad rock lifeguard. Mad Rock Lifeguard Belay Device Red 8.9-11 mm .

I also have the Petzl Roleclip Z Screwlock.

Today I got my order in from Mantis, three more locking carabiners.

I have tested the handclimber and the mad rock in my basement...it works. The mad rock does cinch up and secure me once I have it on feewith pressure. The rappel is jumpy, but that's probably user error.

I will be cutting my rope to 38 feet sections...that gives me three ropes to have to set up trees...or whatever I need.

I use these to get the rope up..two pencil fishing weights that are 6 ounces each...tape them together and tie them to my reflective 550 cord. It works...swing it like David did at Goliah and set it flying. It took me about 5 tries but I got my rope up yesterday. I'm not feeling well today...I think my son gave me his virus...so I will try and do some hunts new years day. I think I have it covered. Just need the platform now.
 
@Newhunter1 You can possibly make it work but you ordered a climbing rope. What you need is a static rappelling rope (less stretch). Climbing ropes are designed to stretch quite a bit as a safer means of stopping a falling climber.

Black Diamond makes a 10mm static rope if you want something similar.


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Don't leave your climbing rope set up in trees. And as weekended mentioned rope with stretch will eat into your efficiency. Leave cheap cord like paracord set up, and and use the cheap cord to pull up your climbing rope. You don't want to hang from something that has been sitting out for an extended period of time, given the choice.
 
Definitely don’t leave your rope in the tree. You could have rodent damage that’s impossible to see at ground level in addition to weather damage.


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weekender21 said:
@Newhunter1 You can possibly make it work but you ordered a climbing rope. What you need is a static rappelling rope (less stretch). Climbing ropes are designed to stretch quite a bit as a safer means of stopping a falling climber.

Black Diamond makes a 10mm static rope if you want something similar.


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I'll contact Moosejaw and send that rope back. I haven't cut it...just tied a figure 8 knot into the end. I'll exchange it for the BD static rope.
 
donnieballgame said:
I use this for tying off the grigri at height and any time i have to remove my brake hand, i usually keep a biner on my left leg strap. I use a tether rather than use the SRT rope.

Also the grigri doesn't have a spring not sure where that came from.

https://www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Tying-off-the-GRIGRI-to-have-your-hands-free

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pesqimon said:
There is a Grigri which I am not familiar with so it may have a spring.

However I believe all the references in this thread are actually to the Grigri2 which has no spring as part of the rope grabbing mechanism.

Spring or no spring the important thing is that the Grigri2 can lose its grip if tension is removed. Hence the tie off instructions from Petzl.

When I’m rappelling down on the Grigri2 stopping to remove Stepps I don’t tie off because the device is under tension. If I were to stop and stand on a Stepp to do something then I would have to tie off the Grigri2.

Apparently the Safeguard doesn’t have this requirement but I’ve never used one.


EDIT: upon further examination there is a spring in the Grigri2 but it works to open the grip. That’s why it loses grip if not inder tension. The rope trying to pull itself through the Grigri2 is what causes the bite.

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Grigri definitely has a spring not sure what i was thinking, regardless it's a great device and i would recommend it, it's been around forever and actually has an approved method for tying off which i couldn't find for the Madrock stuff.

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Not sure, I think I seen this on here. Is this what we are talking about?
 

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Not sure, I think I seen this on here. Is this what we are talking about?
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That’s the tying off method for the Grigri2. Yes. Use it anytime you stop, especially if you will remove tension on the device.

When I am rappelling down and collecting my WE Stepps I do not bother with this.


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still no video? I would love to see starting with a prepped tree(para cord installed), pulling up the rope, ascending, descending, then putting the pull rope back. I think I have a pretty good idea of how it works but I'd like to see the whole process. I'm thinking about giving it a try in the off season. Anyone that has tried this since the beginning of this post, has this replaced your previous climbing method, or have you used it majority of the time with success? Did anyone try it and not like it?
 
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