I have never, ever set up a preset for speed, nor would I. I do them to be quiet, to have shooting lanes, and to limit the gear I carry in. But I may not belong to the "we" or "us" crowd
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I have never, ever set up a preset for speed, nor would I. I do them to be quiet, to have shooting lanes, and to limit the gear I carry in. But I may not belong to the "we" or "us" crowd
we will have to agree to disagree. I would be willing to bet mega $s that 5 - 10 times as many deer are busted and unable to be shot during access than while climbing. The ones you see and hear are the low end of the ones you bust.
Every one can do what works for them, as for me and my house, I'm going to take my time on entry and while climbing.
Slip in thru the woods as quiet as you can and climb slow and be observant as you climb. I have had a fair number of occasions where deer moved through the area while I was climbing and I saw them because I was looking while I climbed - keeping alert as you climb will keep you from spooking deer that may be coming through or be close by - and you may have a shot opportunity as others have mentioned.
Sometimes I say a little mantra in my head while setting up and climbing - I keep telling myself "its better to be quiet than fast" - that helps me slow down and be very quiet....I also make a point to get to the woods early so I can take my time walking in and setting up....Some of the guys I know like to wait until almost prime time to get to their stand but I like to be settled in an hour before I expect game to be moving....
Sometimes I say a little mantra in my head while setting up and climbing - I keep telling myself "its better to be quiet than fast" - that helps me slow down and be very quiet....I also make a point to get to the woods early so I can take my time walking in and setting up....Some of the guys I know like to wait until almost prime time to get to their stand but I like to be settled in an hour before I expect game to be moving....
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You have to get up on your toes more to make this technique effective, maybe some crocs would help too, just saying. All kidding aside I actually get where he was going..... I never walk through good areas I know hold deer like a human.....very easy for deer to tell what we are.......
You have to get up on your toes more to make this technique effective, maybe some crocs would help too, just saying. All kidding aside I actually get where he was going..... I never walk through good areas I know hold deer like a human.....very easy for deer to tell what we are.......
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I was thinking more of speed and less movement in the exposed zone as in drill/bolts as high as I can from the ground and use a stick or two getting on up to blend in background. I agree with everyone about slow/quite and safe just want out of that zone as soon a I can.
I like a lot of the comments here.
To me, it's all about being efficient. I worry about speed, because I want to be ready to shoot as quickly as possible and I don't want to get caught off guard by a deer. I feel vulnerable during the climb so I want to get through it quickly, while maintaining safety and stealth.
I also don't want to get busted because I was fiddling around with a climbing method and was unaware of a deer.
If I can climb in 5 minutes but I'm loud and unsafe, that's no bueno. On the flip side, if I'm super quiet and super stealthy but it took me 45 minutes to get in position, I'm not happy with that either.
It's not really about how fast I can get up a tree, slow is smooth, and smooth is fast. But at the same time I want to be as efficient as possible. Why climb a tree in 20 minutes if I can do it in 10 without sacrificing stealth or safety? That's why I try every climbing method in the ever changing pursuit of efficiency Shangri-la.
Where is the point where you feel like you are the most efficient? For @DaveT1963 it's sticks and an aider. For @Nutterbuster it's bolts. For @flinginairos it's spurs. They're all right in my opinion.
My guess is for most people it's going to be sticks. I'm giving the drill/bolts a serious try this season. I've only used them for presets in the past, but @Nutterbuster and @ckossuth have me convinced to test them out.
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To me, it's all about being efficient. I worry about speed, because I want to be ready to shoot as quickly as possible and I don't want to get caught off guard by a deer. I feel vulnerable during the climb so I want to get through it quickly, while maintaining safety and stealth.
I also don't want to get busted because I was fiddling around with a climbing method and was unaware of a deer.
If I can climb in 5 minutes but I'm loud and unsafe, that's no bueno. On the flip side, if I'm super quiet and super stealthy but it took me 45 minutes to get in position, I'm not happy with that either.
It's not really about how fast I can get up a tree, slow is smooth, and smooth is fast. But at the same time I want to be as efficient as possible. Why climb a tree in 20 minutes if I can do it in 10 without sacrificing stealth or safety? That's why I try every climbing method in the ever changing pursuit of efficiency Shangri-la.
Where is the point where you feel like you are the most efficient? For @DaveT1963 it's sticks and an aider. For @Nutterbuster it's bolts. For @flinginairos it's spurs. They're all right in my opinion.
My guess is for most people it's going to be sticks. I'm giving the drill/bolts a serious try this season. I've only used them for presets in the past, but @Nutterbuster and @ckossuth have me convinced to test them out.
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G2 makes some good points that I agree with 100% and didn't really cover in my post even though its important...Mainly that you should come up with a system that you can be quiet walking in and setting up with but if it takes me even 20+ minutes to climb then that's a no go for me even if you are being quiet...
My sticks with an aider on the bottom stick is very fast, easy and safe - faster than when I used my LW climber so I am happy with that...I haven't timed myself with that method but it seems like I am up and setup in 10 minutes or so - regardless of the time I feel it is efficient...Having said that the bulk of carrying metal sticks in the woods adds an element of potential noise and weight to my walk in that is somewhat of a negative but not a show stopper.
G2 - I will say that years ago I tried hand drilling with my woodpecker drill as I climbed because of the compact profile of only carrying in the drill and bolts in a small pack - that was very nice - but for me it took to long to get up the tree...I don't hunt the same tree very often but in those situations where I do having hunted the tree before and it being drilled for the second hunt would be great...Maybe I need to revisit that option as others have had success with it and you can't beat it for compactness.
My sticks with an aider on the bottom stick is very fast, easy and safe - faster than when I used my LW climber so I am happy with that...I haven't timed myself with that method but it seems like I am up and setup in 10 minutes or so - regardless of the time I feel it is efficient...Having said that the bulk of carrying metal sticks in the woods adds an element of potential noise and weight to my walk in that is somewhat of a negative but not a show stopper.
G2 - I will say that years ago I tried hand drilling with my woodpecker drill as I climbed because of the compact profile of only carrying in the drill and bolts in a small pack - that was very nice - but for me it took to long to get up the tree...I don't hunt the same tree very often but in those situations where I do having hunted the tree before and it being drilled for the second hunt would be great...Maybe I need to revisit that option as others have had success with it and you can't beat it for compactness.
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They’re the bees knees! I’m going to pick up the new treehopper with the foldable handle too. It looks SO much better than my EZKut. If I don’t use the spurs again this season, they will be going in the classifieds.
................................................................................All climbing methods, platforms, saddle designs, and/or use of materials possibly mentioned in the post above are not peer reviewed for safety, and should only be used as an example of my own method. Do your own research and testing before becoming confident in any DIY solution to support your life.
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