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Different perspective on scent control

For me I think one of the main factors when it comes to scent control is how much a person sweats. @Nutterbuster and I spent some time in the woods this past weekend and after a short 30-minute walk through the woods, and at a very slow pace to check on a hog trap, I was completely drenched from the top of my shirt all the way down to my waistline. Nutterbuster had just a few small rings of sweat starting to develop around his neck line and on his chest. So obviously nutterbuster's ability to control his scent due to the lack of sweat versus my profuse amount of sweat would make a big difference in my opinion especially when it came to maintaining carbon suits. There's no way I can make a single hunt without having to wash it. Washing reduces effectiveness. Scent control may be more difficult for some people just based one's ability to sweat less or produce less odor. I guess in the end it's really just about how much time and money you're willing to spend on scent control. Some of us don't want to spend any time or money on it others are willing the devote much more of the two. Whatever floats your boat and makes you happy in the woods is what you should do my opinion. If something you're doing makes hunting unenjoyable why would you continue to do it?
Exactly why you should try Scent lok. If your a heavy sweater the carbon adsorbs the sweat and scent. You don't wash Scent lok after every hunt you throw it in the dryer for 45 minutes after every couple of hunts depending on the level of saturation from your human scent. Scent lok recommends you only wash it when it becomes physically dirty from mud, blood or such.
 
Good points. I remember listening to a podcast where Dan Infalt said he was dripping with sweat this one particular hunt and a deer came directly down wind and never picked up his nose. I think he even dropped milkweed and it was hitting the deers body. He was shocked and said maybe it had something to do with him being so wet. He proceeded to say something about a lot of the scent comes from dry skin flakes floating down wind etc. That would make sense if he was so wet, he would be retaining those dry skin flakes.

Just some details about extreme scent control. One of the steps you would take is to not have dry skin and to use no fragrance lotion after you shower, especially on your face.

Does it work? Who knows! I went to the most extreme measures of scent control one season. I will say I shot one of my biggest bucks and I did feel like a deer magnet that year. I had four deer come directly down wind one hunt, lead doe, a doe and two yearlings. Milkweed going directly towards them while they were 100-200 yards away. I thought they were going to bust me for sure. The lead doe didn’t end up picking her nose up until around 40 yards from me, and was definitely “drinking in my scent”. They ended up bedding down in some thick cover 40 yards behind me.

My thoughts - she ended up smelling me and thinking I was on the neighboring property. I guess she decided to bed down and wait the smell out thinking they were at a safe distance.

Just my two “scents”
Maybe being a sweaty ass mofo could play to my advantage then LOL
 
Exactly why you should try Scent lok. If your a heavy sweater the carbon adsorbs the sweat and scent. You don't wash Scent lok after every hunt you throw it in the dryer for 45 minutes after every couple of hunts depending on the level of saturation from your human scent. Scent lok recommends you only wash it when it becomes physically dirty from mud, blood or such.
I have scentlok and have Hunted in it and sweat it in it. It stinks to high heaven when I'm done. Throw it in the dryer and you just have a dry stinky garment at least that's been my experience. Maybe mine is broken
 
My 2 cent worth....if that... LOL! If I can watch my entrance and wind direction using milkweed. Being aware of thermals to keep my scent cone over the deer's head.....as far as I can tell I beat their ability to smell me....based on deer I hear or see. But, I enjoy the way I hunted for years upgraded with apps and milkweed. I'm enjoying hunting as much as I ever did. Old school I guess.....43 years with a bow!
 
What would be an interesting test study would be to have a guy go sit hidden in the woods with a full scent control regimen. Then, have one of these trained dogs go in to find him. As the dog approaches the scent control regimen guy, read the dogs body language of excitement to see if this level of reaction is the same as if the guy hidden there had zero scent control regimen (Compare the two levels of reaction).
There was a video years ago on that very subject. It was very interesting and I wish I could remember where I found it. But if you go and search you might be able to find it. I hunt in the suburbs and deer smell humans every day so they are a little more tolerant of human scent .
 
I have scentlok and have Hunted in it and sweat it in it. It stinks to high heaven when I'm done. Throw it in the dryer and you just have a dry stinky garment at least that's been my experience. Maybe mine is broken
Well you must be one stinkin son of a gun then. Maybe Nutterbuster's nose is what's broken :laughing:
 
This was a great read and another perfect example of how this forum is different than anything else out there. Love all the platitudes extended to the poster and the additional comments shared. This group continues to impress.
 
Last MLK day we were off work. It was a miserable day for North Alabama. High was 22 with North winds blowing 20 mph. So I sat at home. Not

I got out to the woods about 8am and instead of freezing my butt off in a stand I decided to do a little stalk hunt. While I was walking I seen something move but I thought it was the wind just blowing leaves but it was an ear. There was 2 does not 30 yds from me so I just froze in place to see what would happen. They walked within 10 feet of me at my 11 oclock. I didnt even blink. They stood there for what seemed like 30 minutes and when they couldnt figure out what the weird object was in front of them they just trotted off. Didnt blow or stomp. I am a believer in scent lock clothing and trying to be as scent free as possible but I think human movement and human scent together is naturally a danger to them. We just dont move like any other animal they see everyday in the woods. I guess in my experience what I'm saying is like the previous posters and the original poster as well, if they can see you move that is not natural to them and also smell something weird they have just patterned you. You just gave them 2 pieces to the puzzle.
So even walking into my tree or an area I want to hunt I dont even want them to see the slightest movement. And definitely no flashlight if possible.
I try to let my eyes adjust to night light as much as I can when going in on a morning hunt and when I leave an evening hunt.
Hope this made sense.
 
About 4 years ago, I walked into a stand that was about 650 yds from my truck. With clean boots kept in tote in the back of my truck, I first went directly to a puddle and ground the soles into the mudfy bottom. Then went to my stand.
The stand was on a swamp edge and the last 5 yds of my approach was bare ground, dirt.
I got up in the tree.
About 4 hours later, a small 4 point came through and his nose was on the ground the entire time when he moved. (Pre rut was on).
When he crossed my walk in, he stopped dead in his tracks, apparently smelling the soles of my boots. He turned abruptly and scurried off right back where he had came from.
It was then I realized, once and for all, total scent control is futile...
This was not a coincidence... the buck could smell my walk in after a 600 plus yard walk in and 4 hours of time lapse...
 
About 4 years ago, I walked into a stand that was about 650 yds from my truck. With clean boots kept in tote in the back of my truck, I first went directly to a puddle and ground the soles into the mudfy bottom. Then went to my stand.
The stand was on a swamp edge and the last 5 yds of my approach was bare ground, dirt.
I got up in the tree.
About 4 hours later, a small 4 point came through and his nose was on the ground the entire time when he moved. (Pre rut was on).
When he crossed my walk in, he stopped dead in his tracks, apparently smelling the soles of my boots. He turned abruptly and scurried off right back where he had came from.
It was then I realized, once and for all, total scent control is futile...
This was not a coincidence... the buck could smell my walk in after a 600 plus yard walk in and 4 hours of time lapse...

Ever wonder what was in that puddle you ground your boots into?

I'm not saying he didn't smell you, I am just not sure that specific experience proves it. He could have been smelling something from that puddle, ground disturbance, some really stinky mud that he knew shouldn't be there, or yes possibly some human scent you picked up somewhere. Lots of different possibilities in that one.
 
About 4 years ago, I walked into a stand that was about 650 yds from my truck. With clean boots kept in tote in the back of my truck, I first went directly to a puddle and ground the soles into the mudfy bottom. Then went to my stand.
The stand was on a swamp edge and the last 5 yds of my approach was bare ground, dirt.
I got up in the tree.
About 4 hours later, a small 4 point came through and his nose was on the ground the entire time when he moved. (Pre rut was on).
When he crossed my walk in, he stopped dead in his tracks, apparently smelling the soles of my boots. He turned abruptly and scurried off right back where he had came from.
It was then I realized, once and for all, total scent control is futile...
This was not a coincidence... the buck could smell my walk in after a 600 plus yard walk in and 4 hours of time lapse...
The only time that boots should be stored in a sealed container is when those boots have been deodorized on the inside of the boot. When boots that have been previously worn (and contaminated on the insides with odor) are kept in sealed containers, you are actually storing them in a closed environment of human odor. The inside of the boot will contaminate the outside of the boots.
When I come back to my truck from a hunt, I never put my boots back in a closed boot bin. They are left in the open air until I thoroughly dry the insides and also treat the insides and outsides with ozone. I also routinely ozone the inside of the boot bin.

One other point...never use a bare foot, or stocking foot to push boot off your other foot. Never pull off a boot with bare hands. When you do either of those things, you've now contaminated the outside of that boot. I know for a fact that a single fingerprint has enough odor for a deer to detect. Touching boots with bare hand or a bare foot is a mistake. Some boots are difficult to remove. resist the urge to grab it with your hands or use the other foot to push it off. Boot-on-boot is okay, but otherwise, never use anything that contains human odor to grasp or remove a boot. A boot jack is a handy little tool. Some styles of rubber boots are almost impossible to pull off without a jack.

My success rate with not having trail busts is pretty much 100%. I cross deer trails on almost every hunt with very minimal busts. I'm not saying deer don't smell the ground disturbance or that they don't smell any of my odor, but the level of the reduced odor is to the level that it does not alarm them.
It's probably the biggest point that gets ignored in these odor discussions... it's not the odor itself, it's the intensity of the odor that we can influence.

One more thing...Not all rubber smells the same. The next time you are in a boot store, pick up each pair/brand of boot and sniff the bottom. Some have almost no rubber smell and others have a horrible stench. I won't buy a boot that stinks before I've even worn it.
 
Good input guys. I realize the rubber thing for sure, but these were seasoned boots and the tote was open top. Just didn't want them touching the inside of my truck bed, not trying to seal off completely. I'll never know what caused that reaction. I doubt seriously there was something in the puddle, but whatever it was he smelled, it had to be miniscule in nature, if not actually just the boot rubber itself.
 
Good input guys. I realize the rubber thing for sure, but these were seasoned boots and the tote was open top. Just didn't want them touching the inside of my truck bed, not trying to seal off completely. I'll never know what caused that reaction. I doubt seriously there was something in the puddle, but whatever it was he smelled, it had to be miniscule in nature, if not actually just the boot rubber itself.
We never know what is going thru an individual deer's mind. A particular deer's reaction to stimuli can change from one encounter to the next. We see that sometimes with a buck responding negatively to calling one day, and respond positively to that exact same call the next day. It's hard to know what types encounters a deer has had in the minutes, or hours, or days before. And what one deer won't tolerate, the next deer may tolerate.
I don't like to assume that a deer will always act a certain way. If reducing my odor can help me for even 10 seconds during an encounter, it can make a huge difference in the outcome of a hunt.
 
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