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EDITED: Treehopper drills

Allegheny Tom

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I still stand by 99% of my original review.
HOWEVER, In light of the recent issues of difficulty removing the bit after drilling the tree, I feel this needs cleared-up, or rectified before I can recommend buying one.
I am confident that Mark will resolve this problem.


My original review:
There has been many hundreds of posts about the pros and cons and questions about tree bolts. I won't get into much of the "whys" of bolts. If you don't know about bolts, just do a search and be prepared to do a lot of reading.

Treehopper ownership has changed hand several times over the decades and the current owner is Mark Cama. Mark is quite interested and responsive to the needs of us tree climbers. His new release of the Treehopper hand drill is a work of art. There's nothing to gripe about. It's much higher quality than the current competitor and it's the same price. $59.95. It's smooth and quiet...doesn't rattle in the pack like the old Woodpecker design. It drills a 3/8" hole in about a minute. I love mine.

However, I did have questions for Mark about the handle design. I asked him about the long stick-style as opposed to a knob style handle that my Woodpecker has. Mark has sent me a shorter version of the current handle and he plans to make that size available. He also intends to offer a knob-style handle, which I prefer. The knob offers a better grip and control, also more options on exactly what hand position you grab it with, and more clearance in tight spaces. Mark is currently working on offering a knob style handle.

Another thing Mark is working on is a slightly different style drill body that will accommodate both 3/8" and 1/2" bits in the same body. It's still in the design phase but if the concept works out as imagined, one body will accommodate both size bits, (not at the same time, one bit will need removed to mount the other). I know some guys are using carbon rods and are apprehensive about the strength of 3/8". I'm sure Treehopper will not be advocating carbon use, but for you guys wanting a drill that handles 1/2", Treehopper will most likely offer that. And you won't need 2 different drill bodies if you also use 3/8"...just pop the pin from the drill and switch bits.

I'm working on a small field-kit that can hold a spare bit and a couple extra parts. It won't be much larger than a single bolt. IMO, being able to change a bit in the field is huge. Being a mile from your vehicle or camp and want/need to change a bit would suck if you don't have the ability to do so. I bought a spare bit and it won't do me much good unless I have it with me when I need it. I intend on carrying it and being able to change it in the field.

Treehopper has also developed a no-slip coating for their grade 8 cap screws. It will be available in 2 different colors...gray and black. The gray looks great and are easier to see in low light when climbing down. The coating is quieter than uncoated bolts, but not as quiet as marine grade shrink tube. But the coating is less slippy than the shrink tube so the coating safer than the shrink tube.

I hunt private land and have used screw-in steps for 40 years. I've always liked the EZ Climb Deluxe screw-in but they are expensive and not always easy to install or remove on really hard trees. Plus they are 2 piece (the step and the lag) so they are not bomb-proof. I did have a step break off from the lag several years ago. Luckily, I was at ground level.
Ameristep screw-in are reasonably priced but they absolutely suck for installing, removing, and carrying. I hate them with a passion. Bolts are the way to go and the Treehopper drill is top shelf.
 
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Awesome stuff!! Don't think they developed a coating for the bolts. They are just having them sprayed at Line-X dealer with bed liner.


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The issue with the bit has been identified and corrected. I've tested a reworked bit and it works perfectly. The new bits are being made now and should be ready by the end of Feb. Mark is at the mercy of the bit maker but he is working hard to get everything squared away.

Some other news...
Mark is going to offer a folding handle for an upcharge, but he is still working on sourcing it in order to offer it for the most affordable price.
He did send me one to test and the thing is sweet, slick!
It packs better than the fixed handle and when opened, it locks into place. Its almost as long as the fixed handle, but slightly thicker for a better grasp.
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What was the issue with the bit?
The chips weren't evacuating the hole while drilling and compacted which made the drill almost impossible to remove from the tree after drilling. It was a combination of a few things...cutting bevel was not sharp enough.
They also created a very slight taper over the length of the bit that I'm testing. I don't know if it was determined to be critical or not, so I don't know if full-production bits will be tapered or not. The taper is only a few thousandths...I doubt its needed, but I'm not a tool designer.

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The chips weren't evacuating the hole while drilling and compacted which made the drill almost impossible to remove from the tree after drilling. It was a combination of a few things...cutting bevel was not sharp enough.
They also created a very slight taper over the length of the bit that I'm testing. I don't know if it was determined to be critical or not, so I don't know if full-production bits will be tapered or not. The taper is only a few thousandths...I doubt its needed, but I'm not a tool designer.

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Looking forward to getting my replacement. Mine the tip packs and it barely drills. Get 1/2” deep or so and it won’t drill anymore.


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Looking forward to getting my replacement. Mine the tip packs and it barely drills. Get 1/2” deep or so and it won’t drill anymore.


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With the old bit, I had a few episodes like you had and I also had the removal problem, but I have not had ANY problems with the new reworked bit.

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I have no affiliation with Treehopper.
Mark has asked my opinion on design and asked me to test some stuff.
I have not recieved anything free or any other perks.
Just didn't want anyone thinking that I am a Treehopper rep. I am not.

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Good to hear they jumped on fixin’ it so fast.
Later this year, I plan on picking one up to replace my EZKut. The housing on my EZKut has gotten loose and is making too much noise for my liking.

Bolts probably won’t be replaced as my favorite climbing method any time soon. I didn’t even use my spurs once this season, which is crazy. I plan on setting aside a few days next year for going in blind on a property with a rifle and spurs... but if I don’t use them another season, they will go in the classifieds to fund some other hunting purchase.

I would NEVER sell my drill, bolts, or CF bolts though. They are my “precious”


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