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Fawns late in the year

Lol apparently I’m the only one on here that’s not a deer biologist...


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Just because someone don’t have a piece of paper to bestow that title of “expert” on them, doesn’t mean they don’t know what they are talking about. I went to college, a whole lot of stupid people leave there with diploma’s. Please never put that much pressure/expectation on a piece of paper.
 
Look fellas I’m not disagreeing with anyone. But if I get a condescending remark when I question or comment on something I’ll fire back with a smarta$$ remark. I’m not here to argue but I put my 2 scents in and everyone’s an expert and quick to shut people down for different things seen in not to far away areas. I don’t care enough to get rolled up in a debate or argument on a forum on some site. Y’all have a good one, nothing personal but I’m gonna unfollow this particular thread and do some research on the state I’m in and east texas and make a plan to capitalize on different recorded rut times.


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Look fellas I’m not disagreeing with anyone. But if I get a condescending remark when I question or comment on something I’ll fire back with a smarta$$ remark. I’m not here to argue but I put my 2 scents in and everyone’s an expert and quick to shut people down for different things seen in not to far away areas. I don’t care enough to get rolled up in a debate or argument on a forum on some site. Y’all have a good one, nothing personal but I’m gonna unfollow this particular thread and do some research on the state I’m in and east texas and make a plan to capitalize on different recorded rut times.


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I wanna apologize if I said something that offended. All that I thought I was doing was pointing out that early/late fawns aren't something that is rare in the southeast because the breeding season is so poorly defined compared to other areas.
 
I’m not saying I don’t believe it could have been the primary rut just later than most places but I saw a secondary rut here late Jan which is why I said that. I know the Louisiana rut map or whatever ya wanna call it online shows a huge difference in the rut times just in LA alone.


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Absolutely it does. Parts of Louisiana the deer definitely in rut in mid to late November. On the tensas National Wildlife Refuge the primary rut is right around Christmas time. Down here by the house I've seen them chasing as late as February 15th on the last day of season. Although I would consider that the secondary rut in area 9. I usually don't even start seeing much scrape activity until December around Denham Springs
 
I wonder how much deer concentrations affect the rut? In other words where I hunt by the house in Denham Springs we don't have very many deer so I guess there's not as much competition. That being said I'm sure a lot of doe do not get bread until they come back into estrus.
 
I wonder how much deer concentrations affect the rut? In other words where I hunt by the house in Denham Springs we don't have very many deer so I guess there's not as much competition. That being said I'm sure a lot of doe do not get bread until they come back into estrus.
I know buck/doe density can screw it up. I hope Alabama's 3 buck limit cleans that aspect up. We used to have like a 15 to 1 ratio.
 
Synchronized breeding is interesting. I wonder sometimes if we're not ever so slowly seeing our deer evolving out of it. They have access to more food year round, and they have expanded into areas where the winters are not severe enough to kill a fawn born too late.

Hogs aren't synchronized breeders. They seem to compete circles around deer. If whitetails learned that trick, I can't see it hurting them. Having babies year round seems better than having them once a year.
The synchronized breeding is partly to overwhelm predators too. The more fawns that hit the ground in a short period of time, the less likely it is that they all get killed by predators. The same reason an oak drops all of it's acorns within a couple weeks rather than dropping them over several months.

We don't have hogs by me yet, but I would imagine they out compete the deer because they have bigger litters and a much faster gestation period than deer. With does being pregnant for over 6 months, then nursing for a few more months, it's just not possible for them to do it multiple times a year.
 
Lol apparently I’m the only one on here that’s not a deer biologist...


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Don’t worry bud, in the south the rut is so whacky that even biologists don’t exactly know what’s up and it’s why it’s not talked about much beach use nobody can nail it down. It’s pretty well defined up north but down here it’s nuts. Seemed like I heard a lot of people on the forums from all over the country talking about bucks holding their horns later than usual, so maybe there was just a lot of Late breeding for whatever reason last year. Usually a late fawn that reaches breeding threshold and gets bred late generally only throw one offspring, but that’s not a definite either


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Late Rut bred. Ive seen them.with spots in october. They ate dam good too

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Saw my first fawn here in SE Florida on March 4, almost lost all its spots now. Where I hunt in the FL panhandle, they'll drop between now and late September!
 
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