• The SH Membership has gone live. Only SH Members have access to post in the classifieds. All members can view the classifieds. Starting in 2020 only SH Members will be admitted to the annual hunting contest. Current members will need to follow these steps to upgrade: 1. Click on your username 2. Click on Account upgrades 3. Choose SH Member and purchase.
  • We've been working hard the past few weeks to come up with some big changes to our vendor policies to meet the changing needs of our community. Please see the new vendor rules here: Vendor Access Area Rules

First SRT climbs

My SRT setup and my Wild Edge Perch is definitely the lightest, smoothest, and fastest setup I have, once your throw line is in the tree. I can only imagine trying to toss my throw line in the dark on a morning hunt (I've gotten pretty good, but...)... I will be doing several pre-set paracord loops in areas that I may hunt. I don't really see it being an issue in the afternoon with plenty of light. I will second @sdoyle1, though, buy yourself a decent throw line cube! I'm getting rid of my basic setup since I now have the WesSpur mid-grade one.

Another option that I prefer is a Scuba Diver's guide line reel. you can pick one up on ebay for around $15-$20 and they fit in the side pocket of your pack. When you have your line over the limb/crotch.....just reel it up and let it hang, load your climbing line to the tag end and reel the throw line back over with your climing line! It's like putting it away while using it! Simple, compact and cheap....Just another idea. Be safe and have fun!!
 
How early does the SRT group do their presets?
Good question, I'm usually a 1 sticker, but I'm gonna go throw some up this weekend. Give me a chance to practice 1sticking and srt climbs and throws also. I'm practicing a lot now anyways, so by fall it should be natural movements.

Figure it's a good time of the year to go out and get myself some presets, stuff isn't too tall and nasty to walk through
 
Paracord is fairly inexpensive, I'll be starting to put mine out as I scout now (I didn't know that I would be doing this, on all of my March and April scouting).
 
My ascender came earlier than expected, works so much easier than messing with my prusik everytime I want to move my feet

View attachment 28250
I noticed that ascender has no hole near the top to attach a carabiner. This is part of the 3:1 mechanical advantage part of SRT/RADS. It makes the climb much easier. REI has a return policy of I think 30 days on clearance merchandise and 1 year on full price items. Here is a picture that shows the 3:1. The climb is basically reach up with hand ascender and your foot. Stand up on foot loop and pull in slack with non ascender hand then sit down. Repeat until you get to height. If you get sweaty you are doing it wrong. Pulling the ascender towards your body as much as possible so your body is nearly vertical and standing up in the foot loop nearly vertical, is key. You are trying to go up so pushing down makes it easier. Not pushing sideways with your foot.
Edit: I checked the return policy and it may be 1 year on the Kong. I'm not sure.
You could pass the rope from your Safeguard through you bottom carabiner on your ascender but it should have a smooth surface to slide on and not a foot loop strap. I tie my foot loop strap to the bottom hole in the ascender since it NEVER has to come off.
 
Last edited:
I used a Kong Futura this last season. I tied my foot loop in the one hole and then put a caribeener through the same hole to use for the mechanical advantage. I use a 6mm rope for my foot loop which leaves enough room for the caribeener. Worked great and this hand ascender is very compact and light.
 
I noticed that ascender has no hole near the top to attach a carabiner. This is part of the 3:1 mechanical advantage part of SRT/RADS. It makes the climb much easier. REI has a return policy of I think 30 days on clearance merchandise and 1 year on full price items. Here is a picture that shows the 3:1. The climb is basically reach up with hand ascender and your foot. Stand up on foot loop and pull in slack with non ascender hand then sit down. Repeat until you get to height. If you get sweaty you are doing it wrong. Pulling the ascender towards your body as much as possible so your body is nearly vertical and standing up in the foot loop nearly vertical, is key. You are trying to go up so pushing down makes it easier. Not pushing sideways with your foot.
Edit: I checked the return policy and it may be 1 year on the Kong. I'm not sure.
You could pass the rope from your Safeguard through you bottom carabiner on your ascender but it should have a smooth surface to slide on and not a foot loop strap. I tie my foot loop strap to the bottom hole in the ascender since it NEVER has to come off.


I made a foot loop out of a helium strap, i hook the eye from the long strap section into the carabiner, and on the bottom is a buckle for the foot loop portion. what ive ben doing is running the tag end through that same carabiner. the eye of the helium strap isnt too big, which lets my rope slide alright through it. I like that pulley on the bottom of your biner, what one is that?
 
I made a foot loop out of a helium strap, i hook the eye from the long strap section into the carabiner, and on the bottom is a buckle for the foot loop portion. what ive ben doing is running the tag end through that same carabiner. the eye of the helium strap isnt too big, which lets my rope slide alright through it. I like that pulley on the bottom of your biner, what one is that?
It sounds like you got it right. Maybe you need a bit more practice to make it easier. I had a hell of a time until I realized I must stand up straight and push down with my foot not sideways. That is a Petzl rollclip. I bought it in a SRT kit from a member here who tried SRT and did not want to continue. I think a plain smooth carabiner would work nearly as well. I wouldn't spend $40 on the rollclip alone. I will try a plain carabiner and let you know if there is much difference.
 
Search on Google for "SRT site:saddlehunter.com". There are posts from 2016 where all the cool members who have been here the longest were going to try this exciting new method called SRT. I guess that didn't go too well. I am old and need the easiest and most secure way to climb. I don't know why they gave up SRT.
 
Search on Google for "SRT site:saddlehunter.com". There are posts from 2016 where all the cool members who have been here the longest were going to try this exciting new method called SRT. I guess that didn't go too well. I am old and need the easiest and most secure way to climb. I don't know why they gave up SRT.


It's not horrible, I'm out of shape and using muscles in different ways too, I'll get there and I got all summer to work on it. It's been a long Minnesota winter leading into quarantine and I haven't been able to get out much.

I've been really liking it and will definitely be leaving paracord loops up for easy hunting this fall.
 
It's not horrible, I'm out of shape and using muscles in different ways too, I'll get there and I got all summer to work on it. It's been a long Minnesota winter leading into quarantine and I haven't been able to get out much.

I've been really liking it and will definitely be leaving paracord loops up for easy hunting this fall.
I set one paracord loop where I hunt and the next hunt I spent about half an hour and could not find it. I climbed the nearest tree and hunted that day. The next time, still could not find it after 15 minutes. About 2 more hunts later I finally took a long walk and zig-zaged through the woods for about an hour and found it. I didn't set any presets after that. The woods all look the same when you are in them. No wonder people get lost. :D
Do you like the ascender in your left hand? I decided to use a right handed ascender so I could pull up with my strong arm. The left hand has a 3:1 mechnical advantage over the right so my weak hand would have no trouble. I have climbed both ways since I still have the left hand ascender from the SRT kit I bought. I don't think it really matters but if things were to fail I would have a better chance of hanging on with my right hand than my left.
 
I've been thinking about doing a high climb in the local park. I would throw a line up about 50 or 60 feet and climb up to see what it is like. I have been over looking at the trees for higher limbs.
 
I set one paracord loop where I hunt and the next hunt I spent about half an hour and could not find it. I climbed the nearest tree and hunted that day. The next time, still could not find it after 15 minutes. About 2 more hunts later I finally took a long walk and zig-zaged through the woods for about an hour and found it. I didn't set any presets after that. The woods all look the same when you are in them. No wonder people get lost. :D
I could see that, im not sure how im gonna figure that out yet. considering taking pictures of the tree so i know which one im looking for.

Do you like the ascender in your left hand? I decided to use a right handed ascender so I could pull up with my strong arm. The left hand has a 3:1 mechnical advantage over the right so my weak hand would have no trouble. I have climbed both ways since I still have the left hand ascender from the SRT kit I bought. I don't think it really matters but if things were to fail I would have a better chance of hanging on with my right hand than my left.

I put it the ascender in my left hand, and keep my right hand on the rope at all times. my right arm is my stronger arm
 
I could see that, im not sure how im gonna figure that out yet. considering taking pictures of the tree so i know which one im looking for.



I put it the ascender in my left hand, and keep my right hand on the rope at all times. my right arm is my stronger arm
To find the paracord, I thought about GPS using onxhunt but the accuracy didn't seem excellent. Lowes has some reflective stranded paracord which would be good for trying to find it in the dark but it may go missing if others see the reflection.
I forgot to mention, I connect a climbing sling from my ascender to my bridge. You can see it in the photo above. If my Safeguard fails the ascender will catch my fall. I like backups. My bridge is not backed up which worries me a little.
 
To find the paracord, I thought about GPS using onxhunt but the accuracy didn't seem excellent. Lowes has some reflective stranded paracord which would be good for trying to find it in the dark but it may go missing if others see the reflection.

kinda what i was thinking too, i dont want it to be super visible, and give away my spots either, since i hunt public exclusively

I forgot to mention, I connect a climbing sling from my ascender to my bridge. You can see it in the photo above. If my Safeguard fails the ascender will catch my fall. I like backups. My bridge is not backed up which worries me a little.
ive been thinking about it, if i were to attach a friction knot above the safeguard, would the little metal plate and the way that the safeguard feeds work as a tender and push a knot up as i ascend, backing up my safeguard?
 
ive been thinking about it, if i were to attach a friction knot above the safeguard, would the little metal plate and the way that the safeguard feeds work as a tender and push a knot up as i ascend, backing up my safeguard?
That should work although it would add another attachment point. The ascender is already attached. You are only attached to the ascender with your foot loop. If the Safeguard were to fail you could end up hanging upside down from your foot loop. Your friction knot above the Safeguard should prevent that as would my climbing sling attached to my ascender.
I girth hitch my foot loop to my foot mostly so it does not fall off while I am climbing. I leave it on in the tree since it does not get in the way when attached.
 
Last edited:
My journey to SRT started when I was single stick climbing. I was at hunting height and using my stick and a ROS as a platform when I shifted my weight and the stick dropped a few feet (I managed to self rescue but that's another story). This lead me to decide to always climb with a 30' rope so I could easily rappel down if something bad happened. The leap to trying SRT was short and I used what I had on hand but after a season like this I now have a Petzle left hand ascender and a Mad Rock Safeguard with appropriate foot loops and caribiners.

I now combine both single-stick and SRT depending on the situation. If I single stick up I always rappel down and if it's a good spot I expect to come back I leave a pull line in the tree. If I'm leaving at night and coming back in the morning I leave everything except my bag/bow/shotgun in the tree and rappel down/SRT back up.

The only thing I might consider differently is doubling my rope length with a slightly lighter rope giving me some more flexibility like tying off at the bottom of the tree.
 
To find the paracord, I thought about GPS using onxhunt but the accuracy didn't seem excellent. Lowes has some reflective stranded paracord which would be good for trying to find it in the dark but it may go missing if others see the reflection.
I forgot to mention, I connect a climbing sling from my ascender to my bridge. You can see it in the photo above. If my Safeguard fails the ascender will catch my fall. I like backups. My bridge is not backed up which worries me a little.
I think I found a suitable solution, I went to my local fleet shop today and picked up little reflective orange flag markers with clips ($3). I think I can just loop a bight of the paracord and clip this guy on there, hoist it up the tree 8 feet or so. Should at least give me something to look for when I know I'm close to my camo paracord rope. But hopefully discreet enough for people not to mess with it. Weighs nothing to throw one in a pouch or pocket
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20200522-183022.png
    Screenshot_20200522-183022.png
    407 KB · Views: 21
I've been thinking about doing a high climb in the local park. I would throw a line up about 50 or 60 feet and climb up to see what it is like. I have been over looking at the trees for higher limbs.
Yesterday, I went to the park with my 35 foot long 8.5mm hunting rope with a 40 foot paracord tied to the loop. I threw over a high limb on the first throw with my 12 oz weight and 300lb test Dyneema fishing line. I pulled the rope up and discovered another limb was in the loop. I pulled my throwline back up, attached the weight and swung it so the extra limb was not captured then started pulling my rope up again. When it got up pretty high, I realized the rope was not going to reach the ground when cinched. I pulled it down with the paracord then went home. It was still an hour till sunset so I grabbed the climbing rope that was left over when I cut off the 35 foot piece, about 125 feet. I didn't need any paracord since I could use the excess rope to pull itself down. I threw over a slightly different crotch at the same height. It took me 4 tries. I found out that I needed to stand back so I was throwing less vertical. When I did, the next throw went right over the crotch. I pulled up the rope, tied an alpine butterfly loop, passed the end through the loop and pulled it up. It took about 10 minutes. I still had about an hour till sunset so I walked home and got my Black Diamond Alpine Bod, a extremely light weight climbing harness and my left hand ascender (GM climbing) and descender (Beal Birdie). I pulled my self up about 10 feet and the Birdie worked really well. The Alpine Bod was a bit uncomfortable since it was so small so I did not go higher. I also did not have my secondary attachment sling to my ascender for backup so I was a bit concerned about having no backup. I swung around a bit and it was getting a little dark so I descended and pulled down the rope and went home. Today, I plan to set my 11mm Bluewater Assault line in the tree and climb up about 45 feet. I feel better climbing on more stout line at greater height. 8.5mm rope seems fine at 25 feet. At 50 feet it feels less comfortable. This time, I will take my DIY Yellow Jacket (tm) saddle for comfort and my Petzl right hand ascender which I am more comfortable using. Happy climbing!
 
Last edited:
Back
Top