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Friction Hitch Safety Diameter

RandomHero18

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I am still new to saddle hunting this will be my 2nd year with my set up. I got into trying one sticking and 2TC and found that like most of you I dislike the prusiks that came from the factory. I want to try some of the other hitches (been reading the forum to figure out which ones) but I only have a 6mm 22'' eye to eye cord and it is too small to make most of the hitches I have seen mentioned here. I have the Sterling C-IV Canyon Rope and looking around I only see the longer eye to eye cord in 8mm. So long set up to ask will the 8mm cord be safe to use on the Canyon rope I thought I would need a bigger discrepancy between the two. or if there is a good hitch to use with the 22'' cord I already have?
 
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Buy a new cord... that's not a big enough difference in diameter.... you want the diameter at most 75% the diameter of you tether or LB or whatever... check out doublesteps.com... you can buy custom lengths
 
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TooheyBirdie said:
Buy a new cord... that's not a big enough difference in diameter.... you want the diameter at most 75% the diameter of you tether or LB or whatever... check out doublesteps.com... you can buy custom lengths
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doublestep is now sewing custom length double eye cords? i hope so, i'll check it out

to the OP, don't forget you can always buy whatever cord works best and then tie your own eyes with 2 scaffold knots (some folks use poacher knots, but i like the 2 wraps of the scaffold)

just look at multiple knot tying sites for these and practice many times with paracord and pull your knot apart and learn how to determine it was properly tied (and how you could tie it wrong...you have to put the tag end through the right area of the wraps) and then test it good and hard (bouncing, etc) at ground level before you ever use it at height

EDIT: I just looked at every sewn eye hitch cord at doublestep, and none can be custom ordered to length...you probably can get one of the sewing houses to do it for you, but no idea what the charge for a single unit would be
 
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RandomHero18 said:
I am still new to saddle hunting this will be my 2nd year with my set up. I got into trying one sticking and 2TC and found that like most of you I dislike the prusiks that came from the factory. I want to try some of the other hitches (been reading the forum to figure out which ones) but I only have a 6mm 22'' eye to eye cord and it is too small to make most of the hitches I have seen mentioned here. I have the Sterling C-IV Canyon Rope and looking around I only see the longer eye to eye cord in 8mm. So long set up to ask will the 8mm cord be safe to use on the Canyon rope I thought I would need a bigger discrepancy between the two. or if there is a good hitch to use with the 22'' cord I already have?
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You can do a Cornell hitch on 8mm line with that length
 
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I will give the knut and cornell a try. WIll either or both of those be sufficient primary hitch methods while one sticking?

edit: I tried to tie each of these will the 22'' cord from doublesteps.com and I didn't have enough to tie either one so I will have to keep looking. Thanks everyone
 
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RandomHero18 said:
I will give the knut and cornell a try. WIll either or both of those be sufficient primary hitch methods while one sticking?

edit: I tried to tie each of these will the 22'' cord from doublesteps.com and I didn't have enough to tie either one so I will have to keep looking. Thanks everyone
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Use a 3 wrap Cornell not a 4. And yes it’ll hold for a primary connection point
 
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raisins said:
doublestep is now sewing custom length double eye cords? i hope so, i'll check it out

to the OP, don't forget you can always buy whatever cord works best and then tie your own eyes with 2 scaffold knots (some folks use poacher knots, but i like the 2 wraps of the scaffold)

just look at multiple knot tying sites for these and practice many times with paracord and pull your knot apart and learn how to determine it was properly tied (and how you could tie it wrong...you have to put the tag end through the right area of the wraps) and then test it good and hard (bouncing, etc) at ground level before you ever use it at height

EDIT: I just looked at every sewn eye hitch cord at doublestep, and none can be custom ordered to length...you probably can get one of the sewing houses to do it for you, but no idea what the charge for a single unit would be
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Yeah… I actually meant to say custom length and tie your own loops…my B
 
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RandomHero18 said:
I am still new to saddle hunting this will be my 2nd year with my set up. I got into trying one sticking and 2TC and found that like most of you I dislike the prusiks that came from the factory. I want to try some of the other hitches (been reading the forum to figure out which ones) but I only have a 6mm 22'' eye to eye cord and it is too small to make most of the hitches I have seen mentioned here. I have the Sterling C-IV Canyon Rope and looking around I only see the longer eye to eye cord in 8mm. So long set up to ask will the 8mm cord be safe to use on the Canyon rope I thought I would need a bigger discrepancy between the two. or if there is a good hitch to use with the 22'' cord I already have?
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The best investment you can make in your climbing education is a length of quality utility cord from a reputable brand and supplier. I always use raw cordage and then close it using a bend, with preference for the hunters bend. Buy 25 ft or so, cut a couple of 6 foot lengths and have some fun doing side by side tests. 6mm Sterling is quite cheap and great for doing tests, but it is not actually recommended for life support applications and so I usually just use that for testing. But this new Blue Water cord is pretty sweet.

I have several listed on this page:

Shopping List - jrbtreeclimbing.com

Use "JRB10" Code for 10% Discount at: https://www.rocknarbor.com/product-category/outdoors/saddle-hunting Use this page, and the supporting pages, to make your own shopping list for everything necessary to build a Climbing System. Also consider which climbing methods you want to use with the...
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John RB said:
The best investment you can make in your climbing education is a length of quality utility cord from a reputable brand and supplier. I always use raw cordage and then close it using a bend, with preference for the hunters bend. Buy 25 ft or so, cut a couple of 6 foot lengths and have some fun doing side by side tests. 6mm Sterling is quite cheap and great for doing tests, but it is not actually recommended for life support applications and so I usually just use that for testing. But this new Blue Water cord is pretty sweet.

I have several listed on this page:

Shopping List - jrbtreeclimbing.com

Use "JRB10" Code for 10% Discount at: https://www.rocknarbor.com/product-category/outdoors/saddle-hunting Use this page, and the supporting pages, to make your own shopping list for everything necessary to build a Climbing System. Also consider which climbing methods you want to use with the...
jrbtreeclimbing.com

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This^^^^ beat me to it, but you taught me this anywho. =0)
 
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John RB said:
The best investment you can make in your climbing education is a length of quality utility cord from a reputable brand and supplier. I always use raw cordage and then close it using a bend, with preference for the hunters bend. Buy 25 ft or so, cut a couple of 6 foot lengths and have some fun doing side by side tests. 6mm Sterling is quite cheap and great for doing tests, but it is not actually recommended for life support applications and so I usually just use that for testing. But this new Blue Water cord is pretty sweet.

I have several listed on this page:

Shopping List - jrbtreeclimbing.com

Use "JRB10" Code for 10% Discount at: https://www.rocknarbor.com/product-category/outdoors/saddle-hunting Use this page, and the supporting pages, to make your own shopping list for everything necessary to build a Climbing System. Also consider which climbing methods you want to use with the...
jrbtreeclimbing.com

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If I can piggyback... get 2 or 3 different types of hitch cord. You might decide that you like one better than the other. I've got the same Sterling C-IV as you and have Beal 5.5mm Cordelette, PMC 6mm, and TRC 7mm. When I started, my preference was for the Beal, but I've since settled on the TRC. You can always call Sterling and ask what they recommend; they told me any polyester or nylon jacket hitch cord of sufficient weight rating and diameter would be compatible with C-IV.
 
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