Hey now, hey now, slow down, now we're starting to agree!
(Kidding, I think we agree on more than we dont, I just can't help myself trying to being dumb for laughs)
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Good read from outdoor life: hunters no longer needed
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(Kidding, I think we agree on more than we dont, I just can't help myself trying to being dumb for laughs)
Well I guess all I can say is I have set my sights on positively influencing @Nutterbuster. Wish me luck.
Well I guess all I can say is I have set my sights on positively influencing @Nutterbuster. Wish me luck.
Good luck. He was exposed to his old spotted fawn killing self for so long your going to have an uphill battle.
Dont I know it but he seems like a worthy cause. I am mostly either committed or need committed. You know how these younglings can be.Good luck. He was exposed to his old spotted fawn killing self for so long your going to have an uphill battle.
For most of the 8 billion and counting homos running around the place, the most meaningful and impactful thing you can do with your life is consider your eating habits. Peter Singer's Animal Liberation and Michael Pollan's The Omnivore's Dilemma are two books that really positively changed how I thought about my daily bread.
I'm also in the "never met a real anti" camp. I've met a fairly large number of people who, if pressed, acknowledged that they didn't want to know how the sausage was made. I've met a subset of that group who took it upon themselves to think through that sentiment a little or a lot and make some changes. I've met a few who did manage to incorporate their diet into their identity, but I've never met the caricature others have described. I'm sure they exist, I just haven't met one.
I HAVE met their opposite though. Middle-aged men who borderline fetishize excess alcohol, meat, and caffeine.
I'm also in the "never met a real anti" camp. I've met a fairly large number of people who, if pressed, acknowledged that they didn't want to know how the sausage was made. I've met a subset of that group who took it upon themselves to think through that sentiment a little or a lot and make some changes. I've met a few who did manage to incorporate their diet into their identity, but I've never met the caricature others have described. I'm sure they exist, I just haven't met one.
I HAVE met their opposite though. Middle-aged men who borderline fetishize excess alcohol, meat, and caffeine.
1 of the wma I like to hunt is surrounded by rich big money.... I've had 4 different encounters with people who have gone out of their way to let their thoughts on hunting known....when u enter this wma u drive on a road labeled "foot traffic only" in a zone that u aren't allowed to hunt. Right off the bat the hiker people don't like u driving on the road. This 1 couple walked directly in the center of the road not budging..the normal 5 minute drive to the check in took almost 30 minutes...they knew I was there but would stop and point up in the canopy like they were bird watching but they were blatantly not bird watching and just going out of their way to obstruct the road the hunters drive on.....another time a women was driving up and down the road opening day at morning prime time laying on the horn....up and down the road over and over....I finally ran out there to try to get a licence plate number but she had drove off by the time I got out of the woods....a young couple was walking thier dog thru the wma during hunting season. I had just got back to the truck for lunch and that dog ran by. I didn't shoulder the gun but dogs and hogs look an awful lot alike....so when the owners walked by I politely informed them it's hunting season and running the dog off the leash might possibly not be the smartest idea and was instantly cussed out...25ish year old yuppie asshats...I wanted to smash that jerk off but had to refrain ( thinking about that post about does hunting make u a better person) and the last interaction was a father and son and I guess he was just trying to impress his kid by talking down to me and having his kid fully guilt trip me with Bambi nonsense and that real intelligent "u can get meat from the store... Why do u have to kill deer" line of thinking...I just smile and don't respond. This 1 particular wma is the only 1 I ever had any issue.
Didn't read the whole thread....but having grown up on the left coast I've known tons of anti's. I suspect the reason some may have never encountered any in real life is the same reason none of my liberal friends in San Francisco knew I was a conservative. People know when they're "behind enemy lines" so to speak. I steered clear of hot button topics because it just wasn't worth the headache to argue about it and I know liberals on the gulf coast where I live now that do the same thing.
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one was my neighbor once. She was old, had money and no kids - or at least none that visited her - and she would stop and scold me for hunting when Id be unloading my truck dressed in camo. I tried to just talk and reason with her and say I understood her, but explain how I eat the meat, feeds the family, clean ethical kill, etc.
She would still scold me. Say its just not right etc. The irony was she was driving a Lexus with leather seats. but some things to note was a) she was bored/had plenty of time to waste, b) had some money, c) was lonely, and d) full of herself. That recipe can go one of two ways… for her, she was pretty high up in Peta and eventually moved to their HQ in Richmond, VA.
Cabelas sells them over the counter. I think I just paid $32 for a wolf tag with a $1000 pay back if I had seen or got one, which I didn’t. I was in the Frank for eight days straight and didn’t see or hear an elk. Saw some mule deer and some sheep, which I did not have tags for.They issue wolf tags in Idaho. Apparently quite a few now, thanks to some vocal folks.
New Law Expands Idaho Wolf Take to 90 Percent of Population, Loosens Regs
Despite opposition from the Idaho Fish and Game Commission, the governor of Idaho signed a new bill into law that would expand wolf hunting.www.google.com
And i dont know that a quick look at numbers backs the claim that they're decimating any ungulates.
Idaho hunters record a good year for elk, deer harvest
Idaho elk and deer hunters had a good season in 2020, according to recently released Idaho Department of Fish and Game information.www.spokesman.com
The wolf issue there is 100 percent real sadly. I just experienced it.
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The Bob Marshall is just as bad or worse from what I understand. I have a buddy that has hunted the Frank a couple of times recently and he said the same.
I have a cousin thats HSUS. I met a bunch of antis when Ohio proposed a bobcat season. Was at the open house at our district DNR HQ. Some of them fit the caricature perfectly, especially the females.
Yes this is also true.
I had to google this due to my mind not wanting to accept your statement. It is a hundred percent accurate.
I"m heading North in two days for Wisconsin's gun season. I hunt several areas, but my main spot (where I ALWAYS hunt opening day) has seen 3 bear-hounds killed by wolves this fall. How do you think I'm feeling about my success this season?
Dont forget to pack a shovel.
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For two years now I’ve tried hard to be a vegetarian, with the exception of what I kill. I say “tried” because I simply can’t pull it off at 100%… I’m not going to visit family and ask what’s the vegetarian dinner option… and I’m still trying to work out recipes that I can make on a consistent basis, lotta habit changes. I’d been leaning this way gradually for awhile, but the Dominion documentary on factory farming was my tipping point. On the hunting side I focus on proficiency and shot selection - I friggin love bowhunting but consider it fairly cruel en masse.
not sure where you live but, you can often cut out the factory farms and buy beef directly from local farms/ butchers. More humane, often healthier and since you are also cutting Out multiple middle men it’s usually not a lot more expensive. Or if you don’t have access locally (although you’ll be surprised if you look around) there’s places you can buy grass fed/finished beef from regenerative farms online like White Oak farms but, it will definitely cost more.
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Of all the ways deer can die, and just like us they are all going to die, a broadhead through the lungs seems to be about the least cruel.
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Agreed, that’s not the outcome that bothers me, that’s probably one of the best ways for an animal to perish…. it’s the 37 yard shot that ends up high and back, etc. I bet we’re lucky to have a 50% recovery rate if we’re honest.