Alright so a few days ago I bragged on the silent approach steps I was using for my ros. At that time I was currently using some modified Hawk helium's to get up the tree but was looking for a way to ditch the sticks and cut some weight/bulk. I watched several videos on the bullman outdoors YouTube channel until I couldn't take it anymore, I gave in and ordered their climbing method package. It comes with 10 steps, cam straps, 2 pouches and a waist belt. They came in today and I fell in love with them after getting them on the tree. Very compact, quiet, lightweight and most of all user friendly. If you're looking for a way to get rid of sticks but spikes or other climbing methods aren't legal in your area, and want an easy lightweight way to get up a tree I highly recommend them.