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So here's a simple solution that works but might not be for everybody. You can cock/uncock the bow without taking off the quiver and it tucks away nicely between the hood of the quiver and take down knob. It's a soft stirrup so tension must be on the string at all times when cocking/uncocking. There's no interference with the string, cables or arrow.
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Jtaylor said:
So here's a simple solution that works but might not be for everybody. You can cock/uncock the bow without taking off the quiver and it tucks away nicely between the hood of the quiver and take down knob. It's a soft stirrup so tension must be on the string at all times when cocking/uncocking. There's no interference with the string, cables or arrow.
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hmmmmm. Can the stirrup go away completely?

what about a mini cable aider type thing locked down the but we retain the stock post with? Or just amsteel. Wheels turning...
 
Jtaylor said:
So here's a simple solution that works but might not be for everybody. You can cock/uncock the bow without taking off the quiver and it tucks away nicely between the hood of the quiver and take down knob. It's a soft stirrup so tension must be on the string at all times when cocking/uncocking. There's no interference with the string, cables or arrow.
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Excellent idea.
 
kyler1945 said:
hmmmmm. Can the stirrup go away completely?

what about a mini cable aider type thing locked down the but we retain the stock post with? Or just amsteel. Wheels turning...
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Excellent idea. What about installing an end on steel cable with a cutout and just putting it in the holes where the existing stirrup goes and tightening the setscrews. The stirrup loop would protect the quiver if the xbow was dropped however.
 
Jtaylor said:
So here's a simple solution that works but might not be for everybody. You can cock/uncock the bow without taking off the quiver and it tucks away nicely between the hood of the quiver and take down knob. It's a soft stirrup so tension must be on the string at all times when cocking/uncocking. There's no interference with the string, cables or arrow.
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Yep. I'm doing that immediately until @DanO cooks something up.

BTW, 5th mini victim this year fell yesterday. 6th got away because you have to aim REALLY low at 10 yards apparently
 
A swage stud on the two ends of cable and the appropriate sized cable could fit up into the holes the stirrup is in now. I've just never seen a swage stud like that. An eye end (after the eye was cut off) might work too and would eliminate the existing stirrup all together. I could use the eye ends with the existing tapped set screw holes but that would look a little goofy with a cable stirrup attached to the outside.
 
Done. I like the fact that if it drops from the tree the metal foot loop will absorb the impact and not the quiver. Mostly.
A tripled scaffold knot, I think. It works fine.
 
A more permanent solution would be a different quiver mount. I have an aftermarket quiver which I hate and am going to replace, but the bracket has room so it can be turned before being screwed down. I have mine turned enough so that I can get my foot in there and cock it.

On a side note I hunted with mine for the first time the other night. I took it on a doe hunt while I was letting the buck I shot lay. I was oh so close to breaking it in. I had 3 does feeding in towards me as I sat over a few trails intersecting and 2 fresh scrapes. The closest one got in to about 25 yards quartering to before she stopped and picked me off since I was in this little toothpick of a tree. Next time. Gotta get a new quiver and I'm really going to have to get used to it in the tree. It's much different than my bow. I hang my bow on the left side of the tree but I found I might want to hang this on the right side and prep for shooting right in front of me to the right.
 
I’m itching so bad to break mine in. I passed a doe and a spike this afternoon because I’ve got two nice bucks on camera from the spot I was hunting. Maybe tomorrow morning.
 
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I broke mine in on this guy he snuck in behind me when it was wet out. Was a 15 yard shot but very steep angle.. by the time I saw him he had picked up my ground scent and was looking into my tree. I turned on my predator got him in the scope and squeezed one off. Hit him a touch high but at the angle it was and his slight quarter the shwacker tore him up. Ran 60 and piled up. I don’t believe I would have been able to get drawn with my compound and got the shot off without him busting me.. I’m back to carrying the Mathews on doe patrol but my wife is trying to fill her buck tag with the mini now.


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I usually remove my quiver and hang it from my pack once I'm up the tree so it won't get in the way if I get a shot.
 
Ok guys...so I lost a deer with the mini Saturday. I had some limb issues with my original and had to take the mini out as it is my backup at this point.

Was shooting great, killer groups, everything locked down tight.

Based on some great input from forum members, and replaying the incided in my head over and over and over....I have concluded I probably pulled the shot, hit high shoulder, and my rage deflected into and through the backstrap. Tons of hair, no blood at impact sight, some spattering on track, but nothing major. Lost trail after 220 yards. Pretty darn confided deer is still alive.

On to the mini. Here are my gripes from now hunting with it and walking through the woods trackking for 5 plus hours...

They all kind of stem from its compactness.

-The stirrup is too small. I hate having to take the quiver off to cock it., Also, my rage hypos stick out past the stirrup, so when walking through the woods the broadhead doesn't get the protection from it...gets stuck on brush, leaves when I lean it against a tree, hunted out a of a groud blind an d just couldt figure out how to rest it without it getting all sruck with leaves...even went through 2 shock collars because of blades getting stuck on brush.
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-I put a 4 arrow quickee on it....because of where the quiver lays, I cant rest my index finger against the stock like on a rifle so its close to the trigger, but in a safe position. its annoying and doesn't help with consistency when going from rife to x-bow. When there is a 4th arrow in it, it actually pinches my hand, so that is the one that gets loaded first, but again, just annoying...

-weight/swing weight. Longer things swing better when aiming for me at least, even when not leading a shot...I like my longer shotguns, they just point better. I am sure this can be overcome with practice, but the thing just feels too light. Its easy to pull a shot and it just doesnt "sit" on target as well as I wish it would. This coming from someone who shot 500 rounds plus a day through an Anshutz for probably 6 years straight. I might take some roofing lead and cut in in strips and wrap the stirrup an oz or so at at time until it feels better, then wrap in electrical tape. Though, I think a little longer stirrup might help balance it with a little more heft....

-Carrying it at my side I actually had to hold it up to keep it from hitting the ground with my right hand...Very weird as with the original I can pretty much just dangle my arm and it doesnt hit the ground and no strain. Right shoulder was kind of stiff from carrying the mini and tiliting it back slightly at an angle.
 
Vtbow said:
-Carrying it at my side I actually had to hold it up to keep it from hitting the ground with my right hand...Very weird as with the original I can pretty much just dangle my arm and it doesnt hit the ground and no strain. Right shoulder was kind of stiff from carrying the mini and tiliting it back slightly at an angle.
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That's really weird. You're taller than me and I can carry it with a limp arm no problem. What's the length on yours from grip to stirrup? Or do your arms hang down to your knees? ;)

The mini definitely has some quirks. I'd encourage you not to let a lost deer source you on it, but I straight-up sold my at the time favorite rifle within 24 hours of missing a huge swamp buck, so I feel ya.
 
I've come full circle on carrying it walking, and packing it. In my pack, no issue shoving it in meat shelf. There's just not a good way to strap it to the hybrid I've found. I've spent a couple mornings staring at the two pieces of equipment trying to figure it out.

I really hope someone runs with the soft stirrup idea with cable or amsteel.

I've completely abandoned carrying the quiver on it. I have it on my pack or on hybrid where I can pull an arrow without looking.

It does fit a bunch of the SH hobbits well, but I would appreciate a longer stock. I bought some material to build an extended removable stock.

I may end up giving up toting a compound for whitetail completely if I can iron out some of these details. Hopefully this springs the time needed to start shooting trad...
 
Nutterbuster said:
That's really weird. You're taller than me and I can carry it with a limp arm no problem. What's the length on yours from grip to stirrup? Or do your arms hang down to your knees? ;)

The mini definitely has some quirks. I'd encourage you not to let a lost deer source you on it, but I straight-up sold my at the time favorite rifle within 24 hours of missing a huge swamp buck, so I feel ya.
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Yeah, I'm not blaming the mini, it shoots great. I have to give it a fair chance. I guess i'm trying to express how much better the original "felt" in my hands. definitely not quite as easy to maneuver through the woods, but once in the tree or sitting, just fit better.

I have gorilla arms...my armspan is wider than my height....

Its 17 inches. No way on level ground is going to hit, I should have been more specific. IT was on steep terrain and talus field rocky areas. I think I was just way more conscious of it because of the BH sticking past the stirrup

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Vtbow said:
Yeah, I'm not blaming the mini, it shoots great. I have to give it a fair chance. I guess i'm trying to express how much better the original "felt" in my hands. definitely not quite as easy to maneuver through the woods, but once in the tree or sitting, just fit better.

I have gorilla arms...my armspan is wider than my height....

Its 17 inches. No way on level ground is going to hit, I should have been more specific. IT was on steep terrain and talus field rocky areas. I think I was just way more conscious of it because of the BH sticking past the stirrup

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You could cut your arrows shorter...

I sent DanO a sketch of a way to improve the stirrup, though I still would prefer a soft one. It's 1.5" deeper, and .5" wider. Most importantly, the flare out from the mounting holes starts immediately at the rim of the hole.
 
Last weekend I was un cocking the mini and my hunting boot slipped out of the stirrup. Made for some bruised up fingers and nails plus the string came off. Frayed one of the front cables too. Putting it in the mail today to have it looked at.
With winter boots the stirrup near unusable. I'll take credit for user error, just wish it fit....
 
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