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Hybrid Sit-Drag and Rock Harness

Once again a very well made video. What harness are you using? And I do encourage you to try the eye level hook up as others mentioned. I now hook up at chin level and a short bridge (20 inches) and I have never been more comfortable - especially while using a platform instead of trying to walk around a tree.

For the rest of you - what harness are you guys using? I would like to find one that is lightweight - I don't care if I have to step into it as I will wear this in. I would like one that has some way of attaching the lineman's belt to it and as few buckles as can be.
 
I've been using Petzl harnesses for over a decade (first for rock climbing). I like the speed buckle despite the small amount of metal. I use a corax now.
 
One thing to add. Black Diamond has arguably the strongest haul loop in the rock climbing harness industry. This is the backbone of the lineman's belt without any stitchwork.
 
BassBoysLLP said:
One thing to add. Black Diamond has arguably the strongest haul loop in the rock climbing harness industry. This is the backbone of the lineman's belt without any stitchwork.
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I wasnt aware it was the strongest, but we agree you need something to keep the lineman connected securely to the harness. Relying on your arms to catch it from riding up over your head isnt an option in my opinion. I also will be doing the Flingin X this season so the rope helps stop my decent more than my face.
 
DaveT1963 said:
Once again a very well made video. What harness are you using? And I do encourage you to try the eye level hook up as others mentioned. I now hook up at chin level and a short bridge (20 inches) and I have never been more comfortable - especially while using a platform instead of trying to walk around a tree.

For the rest of you - what harness are you guys using? I would like to find one that is lightweight - I don't care if I have to step into it as I will wear this in. I would like one that has some way of attaching the lineman's belt to it and as few buckles as can be.
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I haven't seen any RC harnesses with lineman loops ready to go. I was thinking of using my sitdrag loops for both bridge and lineman hook up. They are big and stiff. And with it attached to my RC harness I think it will work like I want. At least I would rather that than the 1in strap I sewn onto my Bod harness.
 
I looked for a decent, lightweight, inexpensive RC harness with sewn in lineman loops as well. I don't think it exists.

I only use the RC Harness for presetting spots in the off season because it is lighter and more pack-able than my Trophyline Saddle. During a hunt I use my Saddle for everything. Now that I'm transitioning to a SitDrag, I think it might replace my harness entirely...even for presets.
 
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kenn1320 said:
BassBoysLLP said:
One thing to add. Black Diamond has arguably the strongest haul loop in the rock climbing harness industry. This is the backbone of the lineman's belt without any stitchwork.
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I wasnt aware it was the strongest, but we agree you need something to keep the lineman connected securely to the harness. Relying on your arms to catch it from riding up over your head isnt an option in my opinion. I also will be doing the Flingin X this season so the rope helps stop my decent more than my face.
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It doesn't have to be elaborate. Even sticked. It can be as simple as feeding the 1" tubular webbing through a large piece of the webbing that encases the saddle. Even a simple cord loop. There are a lot of haul loops out there that aren't load bearing. They are meant for hauling modest loads of gear. Nothing more.
 
Actually the BD BOD does have a rated loop in back - I guess I could add a couple other loops on sides with tubular webbing? I was actually thinking about getting one but still not sure I will need it? I suppose a bridge, tether or carbineer could give out and they second connection would stop you from falling but has anyone actually ever heard of a well maintained bridge, tether, carbineer giving out? I never have my full body weight on it as I lean but do not sit in my saddle.
 
I've seen carabiners fail when crossroaded during a fall. Triloaded biners on an anchor are known to fail, but I havent seen it personally. You can break a dyneema runner during a good fall due to the low elasticity. Its better to fall onto Nylon. However, most falls are going to be well below the force of failure. A good chance you are going to be a hurting unit if you take a fall close to that magnitude and the equipment holds. Never heard of a perfectly good rope failing.
 
I actually looked at that saddle before. It is too robust and pricey for me. I was looking for a more traditional big wall harness, without the over-sized leg pads, that was more in line with an Alpine BOD in terms of price...in the $50 range.
 
Does anybody use a sling style saddle without a harness? Or am I just crazy for considering it?


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IkemanTX said:
Does anybody use a sling style saddle without a harness? Or am I just crazy for considering it?


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Most do (without RC harness) with the addition of a belt on the sling type saddles to hold it up. Not 100% safe but those who do it think its good enough. I'm gonna use the Alpine BOD as back up with the sit drag.
 
IkemanTX said:
Does anybody use a sling style saddle without a harness? Or am I just crazy for considering it?


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I have never used a rock climbing harness in conjunction with any saddle I have ever hunted from.
 
redsquirrel said:
IkemanTX said:
Does anybody use a sling style saddle without a harness? Or am I just crazy for considering it?


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I have never used a rock climbing harness in conjunction with any saddle I have ever hunted from.
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X2 -

pay attention and keep your tether/rope taunt at all times - best advice I can give you.
 
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IkemanTX said:
Does anybody use a sling style saddle without a harness? Or am I just crazy for considering it?


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I have, but my sling already had a belay loop.

I really, really like having a belay loop. Not only for safety/backup, but also for rappelling, making transitions, and multipurposing ropes. I like the leg loops for single stick climbing. I think about this matter different than the majority. I see the sling saddles making conventional harnesses more comfortable for extended sites rather than harnesses making sling saddles more safe.
 
I've never hunted from a RC harness either. For several years I've hunted out of a Trophyline saddle without leg loops or shoulder straps. Next year I'll be hunting out of my SitDrag sling only.

I personally don't see the need for the RC harness. However, that's something you need to figure out on your own.
 
DaveT1963 said:
Actually the BD BOD does have a rated loop in back - I guess I could add a couple other loops on sides with tubular webbing? I was actually thinking about getting one but still not sure I will need it? I suppose a bridge, tether or carbineer could give out and they second connection would stop you from falling but has anyone actually ever heard of a well maintained bridge, tether, carbineer giving out? I never have my full body weight on it as I lean but do not sit in my saddle.
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This guy never heard of a harness/linemans belt letting go, but one of his metal D rings decided it had enough that day.

http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20110926/NEWS/309269873/?Start=1
 
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