Mock Scapes?

[MathewsShooter7]

I'm curious if anyone else is using mock scrapes in their hunting strategy and wanted to share any tips. I have experimented with them over the years with not a whole lot of success in getting them started. This summer i utilized a tip from Whitetail Habitat Solutions, I believe his name is Jeff Sturgis? In short, He uses vertically hanging grapevine, cut in about a five foot section, and then tied with 550 from a horizontal limb. I followed this plan in my hunting areas this summer in late June and July, in areas where they historically scrape but adjusted the locations a small degree to suit my hunting setups. Thus far it has been extremely successful w/ almost every one i have created getting worked. The idea is to set the table for success come late October by getting does and even fawns hitting them during the summer and early fall. It is a small window, but in that pre rut period these scrapes should be on fire, w/ bucks checking them in daylight hours. I am excited about the results i have gotten this year with this technique and wanted to share. Check out Jeff's videos, he has lots of info on creating mock scrapes, how, why, where, and when to hunt hunt them. Its pretty good stuff and has worked for me in terms of getting them established...Now I have to do the rest!

 

[NATHAN]

I havent enjoyed the success yet, but I have studied and believe in Jeff's philosophies. I have invested a great deal of time and labor into our property based on them. I only have 1 mock srape so far and I don't think its been hit yet. I set it a little too high. Of the resources that I have used for our 140 acres in the last 3 years, Jeff has by far had the biggest influence.

 

[MathewsShooter7]

Agreed, I do some food plotting on the private i hunt and he offers a lot of knowledge there as well. I like the idea of trying to define deer movement through your property in different ways.

 

[swimmer]

I do not have access to grape vines and have had little success this year with the mock scrapes I made being hit. I tried limbs from the area tied vertically as well. Anyone tried this method with anything other than grapevines and had success?

 

[MathewsShooter7]

I do not have access to grape vines and have had little success this year with the mock scrapes I made being hit. I tried limbs from the area tied vertically as well. Anyone tried this method with anything other than grapevines and had success?

this is what i tried with for years...I have not had good success until this year with vertical vines.

 

[sureshotscott]

I set one up on a public spot by stringing 550 cord through some trees to hang a strip of vine. It's located where a couple of trails intersect in big woods near a swamp. I'm cautiously optimistic...want to get some bucks visiting but don't want it so obvious that every hunter in the area finds it. So far I have pics of one doe giving it attention.

 

[MathewsShooter7]

I set one up on a public spot by stringing 550 cord through some trees to hang a strip of vine. It's located where a couple of trails intersect in big woods near a swamp. I'm cautiously optimistic...want to get some bucks visiting but don't want it so obvious that every hunter in the area finds it. So far I have pics of one doe giving it attention.

the more does hitting it the better!

 

[DelaWhere_Arrow]

I “make a scrape” almost any time I have to take a leak in the woods, or open up an old one myself, because I hunt public land with no cameras and I figure even if it doesn’t “get worked” or if I never see a deer within bow range of it, it’s probably the most deer-friendly way to exhaust my bladder. I have had deer in range close enough to some of these “scrapes” to make me think something worked, but I have not been particularly interested in hunting them or setting a cam because I don’t want to hammer them with human pressure in their comfy zones on public. I am satisfied just knowing my buck juice hit fresh dirt before ammoniating lol.

 

[Gator]

Made one a few weeks back using a natural limb (no need for a vine or rope unless a suitable limb doesn't exist), just used a stick to scrape away the ground debris, took a piss in it and walked away. Had does and a 6pt within the first 2 days.

 

[MathewsShooter7]

I “make a scrape” almost any time I have to take a leak in the woods, or open up an old one myself, because I hunt public land with no cameras and I figure even if it doesn’t “get worked” or if I never see a deer within bow range of it, it’s probably the most deer-friendly way to exhaust my bladder. I have had deer in range close enough to some of these “scrapes” to make me think something worked, but I have not been particularly interested in hunting them or setting a cam because I don’t want to hammer them with human pressure in their comfy zones on public. I am satisfied just knowing my buck juice hit fresh dirt before ammoniating lol.

Good deal...yea like i said it is a small window that I will focus on hunting scrapes. I will leave those places just rest until prob the first good cold front in October-end of Oct. That tends to get the bucks up on their feet and laying down sign and checking those scrapes in daylight hours.

 

[MathewsShooter7]

Made one a few weeks back using a natural limb (no need for a vine or rope unless a suitable limb doesn't exist), just used a stick to scrape away the ground debris, took a piss in it and walked away. Had does and a 6pt within the first 2 days.

I pee in all mine...it is ammonia in 20 minutes. yea def not trying to say a horizontal wont work...just that i am noticing better success rate getting them est with vertical vines this year. could just be coincidence?

 

[ricky racer]

I've had good success with mock scrapes. It all really depends on where you put them. You can't just put them anywhere and expect them to work. If you make them in high traffic areas on trails or intersections, you'll have good success.

One variant of a mock scrape is what I call shooting scrapes. I place them near my stand in the exact spot I want a passing buck to stop. If a buck or doe see it, they will come over to investigate it. With a shooting scrape you don't have to grunt to make a buck stop for a shot. The scrape will do that for you. I made a post about them last year.

Shooting Scrapes?

I don't know if anyone else does this or not so I thought I'd share it in case it might help others. Often times if I'm setting up a spot, I look at the where I'm going to set up my ambush spot and take note of the area that I expect deer to travel through. Once I've determined where I think the...

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[mbucks27]

Buddy tried this the other day and had multiple bucks hitting it the first night.

 

[ARERHODES]

I have had success making them pre-rut once I see the first community scrapes open up. Natural deer attractants are now illegal in my state so I used some synthetic buck urine last year with success. I have not seen a buck visit any of my man made scrapes in daylight but have several videos of them being used at night. Good for inventory of bucks in the area. Most of the mature bucks in my area are nocturnal creatures that DO NOT move until the very last few min of daylight after they have left their bachelor groups. I also have made a bunch with my own natural buck lure under a tree that looks good, they prefer holly trees in my area for some reason to make scrapes.

 

[MathewsShooter7]

I've had good success with mock scrapes. It all really depends on where you put them. You can't just put them anywhere and expect them to work. If you make them in high traffic areas on trails or intersections, you'll have good success.

One variant of a mock scrape is what I call shooting scrapes. I place them near my stand in the exact spot I want a passing buck to stop. If a buck or doe see it, they will come over to investigate it. With a shooting scrape you don't have to grunt to make a buck stop for a shot. The scrape will do that for you. I made a post about them last year.

Shooting Scrapes?

I don't know if anyone else does this or not so I thought I'd share it in case it might help others. Often times if I'm setting up a spot, I look at the where I'm going to set up my ambush spot and take note of the area that I expect deer to travel through. Once I've determined where I think the...

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exactly my thoughts. I am trying to define that movement and give them a reason to come to that exact spot while moving through an area. Will give your post a read! Thanks

 

[hunthRd20]

I do not have access to grape vines and have had little success this year with the mock scrapes I made being hit. I tried limbs from the area tied vertically as well. Anyone tried this method with anything other than grapevines and had success?

I have tried the vertical grapevine method and i have checked 2 of the cameras so. both were being hit by fawns does and bucks. im hoping to put a few more out but its getting late.

 

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[Silvio]

I'm curious if anyone else is using mock scrapes in their hunting strategy and wanted to share any tips. I have experimented with them over the years with not a whole lot of success in getting them started. This summer i utilized a tip from Whitetail Habitat Solutions, I believe his name is Jeff Sturgis? In short, He uses vertically hanging grapevine, cut in about a five foot section, and then tied with 550 from a horizontal limb. I followed this plan in my hunting areas this summer in late June and July, in areas where they historically scrape but adjusted the locations a small degree to suit my hunting setups. Thus far it has been extremely successful w/ almost every one i have created getting worked. The idea is to set the table for success come late October by getting does and even fawns hitting them during the summer and early fall. It is a small window, but in that pre rut period these scrapes should be on fire, w/ bucks checking them in daylight hours. I am excited about the results i have gotten this year with this technique and wanted to share. Check out Jeff's videos, he has lots of info on creating mock scrapes, how, why, where, and when to hunt hunt them. Its pretty good stuff and has worked for me in terms of getting them established...Now I have to do the rest!

Roger Rothaar wrote a book called in Pursuit of Trophy Whitetails...find yourself a copy...he was the pioneer to write about scrapes and their category. There are boundary scrapes, secondary scrapes, and most importantly primary scrapes. Each one of these are very important. I've used mock scrapes since the 80's and have taken my share of trophy bucks. The orbital gland is the most important to attack bucks to a given setup. Field edges usually get hit by traveling bucks as well as resident bucks. I've had mock scrape success thru the yrs by placing my mock scrapes in a diamond pattern over a 20 to 40 acre piece I'm hunting. If their hit regularly, one usually turns into a breeding scrape or one new one shows up with the most dominant bucks opening them up with a heavy desire to leave their calling card. Scrapes are hot for about(Oct 18 thru Nov 10th) three weeks then they cool off a bit as the first Does come into estrus.
Pay attention to dates every yr and keep a log...this will help you predict peak breeding and scrape activity to how it relates to early, mid, and late season hunting
This picture is from a mock scrape I set up this summer...been hit alot over the last two months...

 

[MathewsShooter7]

Roger Rothaar wrote a book called in Pursuit of Trophy Whitetails...find yourself a copy...he was the pioneer to write about scrapes and their category. There are boundary scrapes, secondary scrapes, and most importantly primary scrapes. Each one of these are very important. I've used mock scrapes since the 80's and have taken my share of trophy bucks. The orbital gland is the most important to attack bucks to a given setup. Field edges usually get hit by traveling bucks as well as resident bucks. I've had mock scrape success thru the yrs by placing my mock scrapes in a diamond pattern over a 20 to 40 acre piece I'm hunting. If their hit regularly, one usually turns into a breeding scrape or one new one shows up with the most dominant bucks opening them up with a heavy desire to leave their calling card. Scrapes are hot for about(Oct 18 thru Nov 10th) three weeks then they cool off a bit as the first Does come into estrus.
Pay attention to dates every yr and keep a log...this will help you predict peak breeding and scrape activity to how it relates to early, mid, and late season huntingView attachment 16740
This picture is from a mock scrape I set up this summer...been hit alot over the last two months...

I will try to get my hands on a copy...I've seen you talk about Roger's book quite a bit and i am always looking to learn more about whitetails! I have been getting some good pics on my scrapes...I will try to get a few posted up tonight sometime.

 

[Silvio]

I will try to get my hands on a copy...I've seen you talk about Roger's book quite a bit and i am always looking to learn more about whitetails! I have been getting some good pics on my scrapes...I will try to get a few posted up tonight sometime.

Make sure you pay attention to directions a buck is coming and going. Now put your camera on video mode and keep track of times and his exit route....