Muddy pro vs hawk helium

[Jmarth]

Hey everybody, just wondering what you’d pick between muddy pro’s and hawk helium’s. The hawk’s are nearly half the price. Thanks for your opinions!

 

[Rymanco]

Modified hawk heliums for the win

 

[pilgrimhunter]

. Modified Helium's you get a taller step and a lighter stick. Muddy is heavier but you have a cam cleat. I personally went with the Hawk.

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[Jmarth]

Thanks. I ended up ordering hawks

 

[Zddog]

Never tried the hawks. Have both the lone wolf steps and muddy and I like the muddy steps more because of the cleats and rope. Going to try the webbing aiders this year similar to arc hunting ladder


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[Ontariofarmer]

If you want cam cleats put them on the hawk sticks. I had muddy pros and sold them.


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[BenG]

If you want cam cleats put them on the hawk sticks. I had muddy pros and sold them.


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Since you’ve had both do you happen to know what the weight difference between the out of the box muddy’s and modified hawks is? I have the muddy’s and do like them but I prefer to carry 4 and they are a little heavy.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I know that information is in a post some where

Inch for inch helium’s are much lighter

A helium modified to be 2 feet long with a versa button and .25 inch Amsteel rope is if I remember correctly about 2.3 pounds. If you made it the same length as as a muddy stick it would be close to 2 pounds
A muddy stick if I recall correctly is 2.8 pounds. That is a guess. I would have search to find out

That information is in a post called can I build a 1.3 pound stick


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[BenG]

I know that information is in a post some where

Inch for inch helium’s are much lighter

A helium modified to be 2 feet long with a versa button and .25 inch Amsteel rope is if I remember correctly about 2.3 pounds. If you made it the same length as as a muddy stick it would be close to 2 pounds
A muddy stick if I recall correctly is 2.8 pounds. That is a guess. I would have search to find out

That information is in a post called can I build a 1.3 pound stick


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Thank you sir. The muddy’s say 2.5 so 2.8 sounds right. Any other reason you prefer the helium’s other than weight?

 

[Ontariofarmer]

They cost less


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