Hey guys, I have to chime in. I use the WE steps with the knaider/swaider. I don't let the step snap over. I pull it it down and keep it in my hands until until it locks down. Totally quiet. When I use my saddle system, it's because I'm sneaking into some place I think I can get in tight. I value quiet over speed any day, especially when I know deer are close. If you take your time most of these systems can be deployed pretty quiet. I've watched a bunch of videos of folks setting sticks, and when they pull the stick down those stand offs make a racket raking down that bark util that stick sets. Their making a video. Their not sneaking in to some bucks bedding area to hang a set. I'm sure when they do that, it's nice a quiet. Yote, get a fleece pack big enough to carry your platform. They're cheap, and quiet.