Guys just have to say I have been hunting out of the tree saddle now for a week, and I will never go back to a regular lock-on or climber. In my opinion it cant be beat. Im still learning few tricks here and there but the overall weight and stealthyness it gives is enough to turn me. Not to mention I have no problem sitting in it for hours on end. Anyone thinking about trying one I highly urge them to, and don't make a judgement call the first or second time you use it. Just give it a chance and it will prolly change your outlook on stands.