Does anyone know if white oaks exist on public land within the southern tier? I’ve scoured a handful or so and only found one piece with white oaks, but they were only waist or head height.
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NYS - Southern Tier Public Land
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Recurveaholic
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They had to come from a bigger tree somewhere around unless someone planted them!
I don’t disagree, but that piece of public unfortunately doesn’t interest me as much as others with as much attention as it gets from hikers, and I’m sure hunters when season opens. I also wonder if it’s what was left after being logged? A couple guys I know believe most of public was stripped of them because of the almighty dollar.
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All i know is they are scarce up here. I am still looking for some...
Keenan1561
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Yes,
I've done some pretty intensive scouting of Conn Hill and Robert Treman. I've found several spots with white oak. They are full grown and the forest floor is littered with acorns. A lot of these spots are difficult to get too without spooking deer. One I have to walk up a pretty steep washout to get too.
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There are plenty of white oaks on public land in the NY southern tier, if you are finding small ones there are larger ones. However the red oak is 100 times more plentiful in this area. I find a lot in clusters in wetlands. They are also mixed in the red oaks all over the the place. Which if you do not know the bark can be hard to find. Best bet is to look on the ground for rounded oak leaves, then look for the plated bark (the upper and lower ends have distinct ends while the red oak is continuous). On the left is white oak and the right is red oak. There a lots of different red and white oak species in the area, however these are the most common. I hunt a lot of Cattaraugus county late season.
I always look for rounded leaves and I’ve been carrying binos too. I’m sure there’s a chance I missed some on some of these large tracts that are 4-6k acres. I haven’t been able to scout those places head to toe, but red oaks are left and right.... I’m really hoping to find some for the early season. I see them hitting reds but they are so common, I don’t feel odds are stacked in my favor.
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Very well could be the case! On most public I have hunted around my area it is pretty much left alone and not logged out! If alot of logging has gone on around you area then I imagine all the hardwood is gone at least thats been my experience with logging! Good luck brother!!!
Best of luck this season!
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That's been my experience too. Conn Hill does have spots where it's logged but other areas where the hardwood has been left alone long enough to reach full growth. The parks don't really have any logging.
I also hunt in the Arnot Forest (Cornell School of Forestry). They have built slash walls to protect new tree growth from being destroyed by the deer population. These walls are made from the tops of trees etc. There about 10 feet high. The make great funnels and pinch points. There are gates so you can get inside the slash wall and use one of the trees to climb up. That and a **** ton of tubing strung to collect sap for maple syrup.
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