Ok cool. I meant i had a pair years ago and they were A bit poorly stitched and mended. But im sure they have gotten alot betterShabby? I wouldn't say that...they have survived palmettos for a couple seasons.. That good in my book. If I'm hunting off the ground archery season they are my favorite. The side buttons dig into my sides if I wear with my saddle but all uninsulated bibs I've tried do that also
Thanks man appreciate the info