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Optics- are the vortex HD 20-60x80 scopes decent (camofire today)?

There are consistently high quality used ones in the forum classifieds that if you’re patient enough and look around a bit you can definitely find as good as or better deal than that. BTW That profound wisdom is a direct reflection of my impatience and spontaneity.
 
There are consistently high quality used ones in the forum classifieds that if you’re patient enough and look around a bit you can definitely find as good as or better deal than that. BTW That profound wisdom is a direct reflection of my impatience and spontaneity.
That's a great point. A $1200 piece of used glass will be way better than a $700 piece of new glass 99.9% of the time.
 
That’s definitely not a bad deal for a good brand new spotter at $500 OP but I have seen some really nice used Razors or Kowa or Mavens for a similar price is all I’m saying. I bought (and sold) a used Kowa last year for a mule deer hunt in SD for under $700. It was really nice glass and I could definitely notice a difference over my diamondback spotter. I personally didn’t notice a difference between my diamondback and a friend’s vipers. I’m rarely using a spotter here in New England at all so I went back to the diamondbacks. Ultimately depends what you’re using it for, where you’ll be using it and how much you’re willing to spend.
 
I was able to control the spending urges thanks to the reinforcement that it's really not a great deal. thanks all lol!
 
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