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Rappelling after hunt

For those that are bringing your SRT rope up and stowing it with you in the tree while hunting, how are you doing it? Stuffing it in a backpack? Rolling or coiling it up starting at the girth hitch and then throwing in a backpack? Wrapping it around the tree?
 
Red Beard said:
For those that are bringing your SRT rope up and stowing it with you in the tree while hunting, how are you doing it? Stuffing it in a backpack? Rolling or coiling it up starting at the girth hitch and then throwing in a backpack? Wrapping it around the tree?
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I tie it on the tree
 
This is what I came up with. I was told it is unsafe because you have to open the gate on the caribeaner to put the loop through. I would think if you are attached with a linemans belt while doing it you would be completely fine. You could also possibly use an overhand mule knot where you don't have to open the gate on the caribeaner.
 

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mbucks27 said:
This is what I came up with. I was told it is unsafe because you have to open the gate on the caribeaner to put the loop through. I would think if you are attached with a linemans belt while doing it you would be completely fine. You could also possibly use an overhand mule knot where you don't have to open the gate on the caribeaner.
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I've been doing something similar for years. I tie a simple slip knot (same knot you would use for daisy chaining your tag end) just below whatever I'm hanging off of, typically a Safeguard or a Distel hitch, and put the loop through the bridge biner, being sure to fully relatch it when I'm done.

Its true that the full strength of the biner is achieved with the gate fully closed but on a static hang when you're making the maneuver we're talking about there's not even close to enough load to damage the biner. If you did have that kind of load on it you wouldn't easily be able to open the gate as it would be carrying load of its own.

For my piece of mind I find it worth the risk of having the biner open for a split second under a controlled moment to make sure that I've got a secondary stopper on my tether in case I should grab the attachment inadvertently incorrectly while trying to adjust my position in the heat of the moment.
 
mbucks27 said:
This is what I came up with. I was told it is unsafe because you have to open the gate on the caribeaner to put the loop through. I would think if you are attached with a linemans belt while doing it you would be completely fine. You could also possibly use an overhand mule knot where you don't have to open the gate on the caribeaner.
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boyne bowhunter said:
For my piece of mind I find it worth the risk of having the biner open for a split second under a controlled moment to make sure that I've got a secondary stopper on my tether in case I should grab the attachment inadvertently incorrectly while trying to adjust my position in the heat of the moment.
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Suppose anyone concerned with the open gate could use a second carabiner through the loop and then to their loadbearing carabiner on the ATC. I may start implementing this actually since in this case, metal to metal isn't that big a deal because I'm already making a bit of noise on the descent. I always seem to have an extra carabiner hanging around on my rig anyway.
 
My tether is my 35ft belay/rappel rope. Once I get to hight I pull it out and attach to use for the duration of the hunt. Remaining rope goes across either a limb if near by or in my pack. I use a figure 8 tied off as an auto stop. This way I can stop on the way down and untie my steps hands free.

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An ATC with a guide loop can be used for climbing, hunting and descent without unhooking from the ATC. Hook your tether to the guide loop and the friction caribiner through the rope as normal. This provides an adjustable connection to your main line and will not slip if you let it go. When ready to decend tie an autoblock below the ATC and clip it to your lineman's loop. Connect the friction caribiner to your bridge, unhook the guide loop caribiner and rappel down. You are never unhooked from your main rope.
 
Shot thru said:
An ATC with a guide loop can be used for climbing, hunting and descent without unhooking from the ATC. Hook your tether to the guide loop and the friction caribiner through the rope as normal. This provides an adjustable connection to your main line and will not slip if you let it go. When ready to decend tie an autoblock below the ATC and clip it to your lineman's loop. Connect the friction caribiner to your bridge, unhook the guide loop caribiner and rappel down. You are never unhooked from your main rope.
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Could you do a picture of the ascension portion?
 
There are a number of videos on YouTube showing how to do it. I tried it this evening and it works fine. Search ATC guide mode.
 
mbucks27 said:
This is what I came up with. I was told it is unsafe because you have to open the gate on the caribeaner to put the loop through. I would think if you are attached with a linemans belt while doing it you would be completely fine. You could also possibly use an overhand mule knot where you don't have to open the gate on the caribeaner.
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Don't see how that would work like a ropeman. How do you cinch up to the tree without having to take the knot and loop out Everytime? I guess it would work as just a stationary anchor.
 
Somewhat related, I figured out today that my Black Diamond ATC Guide doesn't work that great with 8mm Oplux. I really had to lock it off with my hand to stay still. However if I was wanting a slow auto rappel then it works great. It's all about perspective, haha. I will play with it more this weekend and see what changes I can make.
 
Shot thru said:
There are a number of videos on YouTube showing how to do it. I tried it this evening and it works fine. Search ATC guide mode.

The ATC replaces your ropeman. Fully adjustable tether and easy transition to rappel.
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So I just watched this video.

Your bridge is like the anchor point in the video correct? (upside down from the way the video shows it?)
Do you pull down on the guide ring to rappel down?
 
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reggoh75 said:
So I just watched this video.

Your bridge is like the anchor point in the video correct? (upside down from the way the video shows it?)
Do you pull down on the guide ring to rappel down?
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Right, the video is upside down. To rappel I clip the friction caribiner to my bridge and let it support my weight. Then I unclip the caribiner from the metal eye and rappel normally. At no time are you unhooked from your rappel line. I used this system this morning. It works with no problems.
 
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