Retreiving Repelling Rope Rigmarole

[Yazoo Hntr]

Also from my internet searches, carabiners are not recommended for that application???

 

[Yazoo Hntr]

Haven’t had an issue like that yet but something I’ll look out for now. Once the long end falls completely through the delta I just give the bottom of my rappel rope a shake and it’s always fallen right down


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Yeah. I had to climb back up. It wouldn't shake loose.

 

[Shane6491]

I use parachord with a carabiner on both ends to raise/lower my bow and pull down rope. Attach parachord with carabiner here to pull down rope.

Obviously after I unwrap gear tie that holds tether/rappel rope tight around tree.


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Hey your screw on the gate is open !!! Rookie move man rookie move lol Jk

 

[Westdesign03]

So you're girth hitching your rope to the tree, then clipping the carabiner in the "girth loop", then pulling that strait down - correct?

Yep that’s pretty much it.


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[Hardly_Hangin]

You have not had trouble attaching to that side? Attaching to that side makes the carabiner go back over the limb? I did that once and my delta link got stuck in the limb v. I attach to the rope on the side my delta link is tied too and the delta link comes down first. Also I do not used a looped girth hitch to attach to the delta link. I use a Scaffold Knot.

What is the paracord in this picture for? That's not weight bearing is it?

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Hey your screw on the gate is open !!! Rookie move man rookie move lol Jk

It is likely a demonstration picture. But that does easily happen if a person is in a hurry. That is potentially one of the most dangerous things we can do. Plus it should be a delta link not a carabiner there.
That said I have had issues pulling down my rappel rope


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[Shane6491]

Yeah we know we talked about this I’m just busting on him ! I also use carabiner and it’s fine!

 

[Yazoo Hntr]

What is the paracord in this picture for? That's not weight bearing is it?

I pull it up in the tree with preset paracords with that loop. No, it is not weight rated.

 

[Hardly_Hangin]

I pull it up in the tree with preset paracords with that loop. No, it is not weight rated.

Oh gotcha, I thought you were going it in your delta. I agree, it is very much not weight rated, just checking.

You're using it like the NY saddle hunter guys show for presetting dDRT sets.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Yeah we know we talked about this I’m just busting on him ! I also use carabiner and it’s fine!

I use a delta link. Also I had a short fall once from a carabiner not engaged properly on a lineman’s loop. That is why I hate loops I cannot easily see. It has made me cautious


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[Yazoo Hntr]

Oh gotcha, I thought you were going it in your delta. I agree, it is very much not weight rated, just checking.

You're using it like the NY saddle hunter guys show for presetting dDRT sets.

For SRT.

 

[Shane6491]

I use a delta link. Also I had a short fall once from a carabiner not engaged properly on a lineman’s loop. That is why I hate loops I cannot easily see. It has made me cautious


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I think with the carabiner thing it’s like you assume the Risk with it. After looking At it it’s not fully a side load but it’s not all straight up and down vertical load either. But I’d say it’s more vertical load then side load. Obviously check your gear and use it properly with screws closed on gates. But it’s just like DIY saddles assume the Risk your taking vs one made and tested!

 

[dalton916]

I use parachord with a carabiner on both ends to raise/lower my bow and pull down rope. Attach parachord with carabiner here to pull down rope.

Obviously after I unwrap gear tie that holds tether/rappel rope tight around tree.


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Attaching there pulls the tag end through the carabiner and leaves a knot and the carabiner to be hung up, in the case of the picture to be be pulled through a notch.

Attaching to the knot/carabiner side pulls the knot and carabiner straight to you leaving only thin, smooth rope to possibly get hung up.

Getting the rope back down is another good reason to put a sleeve on your rope because it allows the rope to easily slide through.

 

[Red Beard]

Attaching there pulls the tag end through the carabiner and leaves a knot and the carabiner to be hung up, in the case of the picture to be be pulled through a notch.

Attaching to the knot/carabiner side pulls the knot and carabiner straight to you leaving only thin, smooth rope to possibly get hung up.

Getting the rope back down is another good reason to put a sleeve on your rope because it allows the rope to easily slide through.

^^Exactly this

 

[Shane6491]

I’ve done it both ways ^^^ notch in a tree I do it the way your saying when I’m up in something with nothing stopping it like notch or branches I hook where snake eater does. Works both ways. I’m sure we all skin our deer a little different

 

[SnakeEater]

Attaching there pulls the tag end through the carabiner and leaves a knot and the carabiner to be hung up, in the case of the picture to be be pulled through a notch.

Attaching to the knot/carabiner side pulls the knot and carabiner straight to you leaving only thin, smooth rope to possibly get hung up.

Getting the rope back down is another good reason to put a sleeve on your rope because it allows the rope to easily slide through.

I get what your saying but it doesn’t happen, or at least hasn’t happened yet. I’ve never had an issue with this method but have retrieving the other. Different strokes for different folks.


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[bowhunthard88]

I'm currently using a SMC aluminum climbing ring on an alpine butterfly with a backup double overhand as my loop, but I am considering moving to a screw link (you're really not moving the loop around branches on the ascent during SRT). My recovery line is Samson 6mm accessory cord and also doubles as my bow/pack rope, I can get an easier grip on the 6mm (2200 lb.) and it has less stretch than paracord. I find in my personal experience that it is easier for me to retrieve the ring/loop end vs. the tag/climbing end from the tree. I slip the alpine butterfly loop on my accessory/retrieval cord over the ring and onto the loop prior to feeding my tag/climbing line end through. I've had some lock-ups requiring a second line when retrieving from the tag/climbing end side.

 

[Jtaylor]

I get what your saying but it doesn’t happen, or at least hasn’t happened yet. I’ve never had an issue with this method but have retrieving the other. Different strokes for different folks.


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That's the way I do it too. Hooking it any other way and it seems like I have to hang my body weight off the retrieval line to loosen the girth hitch. I just give the rope a whip and it's jumped out of any potential crotches it could've gotten wedged into.

 

[weekender21]

Hardware not required and I definitely wouldn’t recommend it.

Attach your pull down rope via small carabiner or any other method behind the knot on your rappelling rope. Works 100% of the time. Knot comes down first leaving nothing to potentially snag in the tree.

You’ll be rewarded with this image at the bottom of the tree.

Knot pictured is a figure eight on a bight with a double overhand behind it. The small carabiner is rated but that’s not necessary. I like a rated carabiner because it gives me a backup and weighs almost nothing.

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[bj139]

You have not had trouble attaching to that side? Attaching to that side makes the carabiner go back over the limb? I did that once and my delta link got stuck in the limb v. I attach to the rope on the side my delta link is tied too and the delta link comes down first. Also I do not used a looped girth hitch to attach to the delta link. I use a Scaffold Knot.

I also got a figure eight knot stuck in a tree by attaching to the tail end of the rope and not the loop end. I now attach to the loop. The tail end is less likely to get stuck.