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Saddle spreader bar?

SNIPERBBB said:
It seems to me the big thing about eliminating hip pinch is getting the rope coming off the bridge to be as close to 90* as possible.
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Can you explain this another way? I'm not getting what 2 things should be at a 90 and at a 90 when viewed what angle?
 
raisins said:
Can you explain this another way? I'm not getting what 2 things should be at a 90 and at a 90 when viewed what angle?
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The bridge should come off the the bridge loops at as close to 90*. Doesnt matter the viewing angle.
 
raisins said:
Can you explain this another way? I'm not getting what 2 things should be at a 90 and at a 90 when viewed what angle?
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Do you have a better idea now? Basically if you get both bridge attachment points pointing straight away from you instead of pointing towards the middle of the tree. By reducing the angle of the bridge to 90 degrees then you take pressure off your hips.. It makes quite a difference. The HPE looks like it should work but I don't care for the idea that it's not adjustable. I made my own.
 
1simplemann said:
Do you have a better idea now? Basically if you get both bridge attachment points pointing straight away from you instead of pointing towards the middle of the tree. By reducing the angle of the bridge to 90 degrees then you take pressure off your hips.. It makes quite a difference. The HPE looks like it should work but I don't care for the idea that it's not adjustable. I made my own.
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Yeah, that makes sense. With a normal saddle, it seems impossible to attain that 90 degrees, so that was part of my confusion. The 90 would be measured from a straight edge held across the front of your belly (?).
 
Basically yes. draw a line from the center of your chest to the center of the tree. Now imagine 2 lines going from where your bridge attaches that would be parallel to that center line.. It doesn't have to be 90 degrees. any reduction in angle helps with hip pinch. It just reduces the pressure. However It's just one more thing to carry. I carry too much crap now. There are other ways to reduce it. Hip pinch is just pressure on your hips. A high tether puts more pressure on the saddle since the saddle is supporting most of your weight. That pressure is transferred to the saddle. A low tether puts more pressure on you legs and less on the saddle. I run a low tether. Belly button high or bottom of the sternum high. My bridge is very short. I'm basically standing on the platform. Hardly any hip pinch since there is hardly any pressure on the saddle . all the saddle is doing is keeping me from falling backwards. You need an adjustable bridge to do this cause the weak side is hard to shoot if you can't adjust and spin on the platform.
 
1simplemann said:
Basically yes. draw a line from the center of your chest to the center of the tree. Now imagine 2 lines going from where your bridge attaches that would be parallel to that center line.. It doesn't have to be 90 degrees. any reduction in angle helps with hip pinch. It just reduces the pressure. However It's just one more thing to carry. I carry too much crap now. There are other ways to reduce it. Hip pinch is just pressure on your hips. A high tether puts more pressure on the saddle since the saddle is supporting most of your weight. That pressure is transferred to the saddle. A low tether puts more pressure on you legs and less on the saddle. I run a low tether. Belly button high or bottom of the sternum high. My bridge is very short. I'm basically standing on the platform. Hardly any hip pinch since there is hardly any pressure on the saddle . all the saddle is doing is keeping me from falling backwards. You need an adjustable bridge to do this cause the weak side is hard to shoot if you can't adjust and spin on the platform.
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This is probably the best explanation I've ever heard regarding the whys/hows of hip pinch. Thank you.
 
The shorter the bridge, the more load the two loops will get. A wider angle at the centered carabiner on the bridge will pinch more.
 
Been doing this for a few years using a button runner daisy chain and two wire gate carabiners to keep the bridge spread out for comfort. You are still attached via your normal tether or rappel rope. This weighs almost nothing and fits in a pocket.
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Red Beard said:
This is probably the best explanation I've ever heard regarding the whys/hows of hip pinch. Thank you.
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Your welcome. It's just simple physics. Reduce the pressure, you reduce the hip pinch. A back band is another way. It takes some the pressure off the saddle. Lot's of ways to reduce the pressure.
 
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