Like it says in the title, I'm planning to upgrade my sight and rest. Right now I'm leaning towards a Spot Hogg Fast Eddie Triple stack and a Hamskea Hybrid Hunter Pro. Mostly whitetails under 50 yds and maybe some 3D. Any other options I should be looking at?
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Sight & Rest Suggestions
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I use a CBE Trek Pro on my hunting bow. Has several pin options, micro adjustments, quick elevation wheel, changeable sight tapes, 2 floater pin options, etc. I like it pretty well. I had the regular Trek first, and upgraded to the pro to have micro adjustable pins.
On my target bow, is a B3 Exact Rize Target, and it's a great sight. B3 has an Exact Rize Hunter model aimed at hunting bows that has similar features.
I've never used a spot hogg, but heard lots of good things.
As for a rest, that can be a divisive topic. Limb driven rests are easy to setup and tune, and I have one on my target bow, but won't use one on my hunting bow.
I prefer a cable driven rest with better arrow containment, that can be locked up in the ready position to keep the arrow from flopping around. I also feel like cable driven rests are quieter than the limb driven rests I've tried. I have not tried anything by Hamskea.
I used a QAD HDX for awhile, but wanted to get something with micro adjust, and picked up a Rip Cord Max Micro this year. The first one I received had a bit of an issue, but I had a great customer service experience with them and the issue was fixed promptly.
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Thanks for the input. I ended up going with the Spot Hogg, the three adjustable pins will cover 90% of my shooting and I really like how open the sight housing looks with the vertical pin stack.
I hadn't heard that limb driven rests were louder. I'm running a QAD Ultrarest and I can get it to paper tune. I seem to be getting good arrow flight but all of my fletchings have faint tracks on them from the felt. I've heard a lot of good things about Hamskea's so I thought I'd give one a try.
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I should note that the noise thing is just what I observed from my limited exposure to the limb driver rests I have tried. The hamskeas may be quieter but I've never used one.
If you've got felt markings on your vanes from the rest, it may not be timed properly. Are you certain it's from the rest and not the arrow shelf? A quick way to check would be to spray your vanes with Dr Scholls foot spray, let it dry, then shoot that arrow. It will leave white marks wherever it is making contact. Don't get any on the shaft where it sits on the rest at brace.
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Could be slight bounce, timing, or nock a little low on the string. Where is your arrow in the berger holes? Maybe they're dragging across the rest when it's in the down position if it's set too low.
Just spit-balling here but those are a couple things that could be causing it.
If you're certain it's not affecting arrow flight I would be inclined to leave it, but if it's causing any issues at all I would look at the above to check and see.
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I’m running into same issue with QAD HDX when I switched over to DCA super sabres - however it doesn’t seem to mess with flight. 6 foot and 10 yard paper tuned bareshaft and fletched bullet holes.
It was the same for me. I'd get bullet holes thru paper and my broadheads would group with the field points but after 20 shots or so I'd start seeing marks on the fletching. I think I've watched every QAD tuning video on YouTube twice.
Yeah I couldn’t figure it out and it hasn’t affected flight so I’m leaving it for now haha
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I think your OG choices in your first post are excellent. Stick with limb driven rests. Hamskea, Vaportrail or AAE are all excellent rests. I’ve never been super impressed with the QAD rests like I have with the others. Many like them though.
Spott Hogg are super tough. I use the Fast Eddie Double up pin.
Spott Hogg are super tough. I use the Fast Eddie Double up pin.
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Idk. Containment is getting better with the current product lines of limb driven rests, but cable driven rests still have a leg up there. That’s a priority for me, so I shoot RipCord’s cable driven rests. Taking cable driven off the table, it’d be a tough call between a WB and limb driven rest for me; limb driven having the advantage in shot performance, and WB in containment. I wouldn’t shoot at a deer past 30, so maybe I’d go WB. But OP is talking out to 50, for which the ball swings to a drop away.
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I just put a ripcord on mine and I'm really liking it so far. They have a new model out now called the Ratchet, which if I'm not mistaken, has the same containment style as their previous models, but is available in a limb driven model that can be cocked like a cable driven rest.
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I’ve not used the Ripcords myself so I can’t give feedback on them. They appear to be well liked by many though.
I’ve not had any issues with containment on any of the limb driven drop aways I’ve used. What’s crucial to that is a pronounced “V” for the whale tail of each of the rests and then a rubber plastic containment “bar” over the top of the arrow. At brace, be sure to have an arrow holder and/or stealth strip on the shelf and riser section of your bow to ensure quiet containment at all times.
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I do not like the cord Hamskea and others provide with their rests for activation of the launcher/whale tail. I switch this cord material out with a length of d loop material. Cut and Burn the end to a point so I can feed it through the rest activation arm hole and then cut again to mushroom it out and burn for the final knot. I use a prussic knot instead of the “football” and when not shooting I release the prussic to store the rest not under tension. It takes much less time for the d loop
Material to completely stretch out o compared to the stock cord but the best part is you can keep tightening it down while it is still stretching somewhat and you need no tools whatsoever. I carry a length of extra d loop material in my bow repair kit for both an extra d loop or rest cord. However the d loop cord is pretty tough already and I’ve not had any problems.
Material to completely stretch out o compared to the stock cord but the best part is you can keep tightening it down while it is still stretching somewhat and you need no tools whatsoever. I carry a length of extra d loop material in my bow repair kit for both an extra d loop or rest cord. However the d loop cord is pretty tough already and I’ve not had any problems.
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Rip Cord had an earlier limb driven rest model that cocked, but there were reportedly some issues. It doesn’t look like the Limb Driven Ratchet does that, but I’ve not looked very much into it. The company that resolves cocking limb driven rests to reliability that’s matter of fact owns the market.
I have had an original Rip Cord develop a sluggish drop…after 10+ years of abuse. Customer Service was outstanding, no questions asked. The “new“ rests with sealed ball bearings are light years ahead of the original offering.
Never hunted with a QAD, cause the one I had failed before ever going afield and Customer Service was terrible. My brother has used QAD for a long time without issue though.
Hamskea seems to overbuild, I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend their products. But the containment on Limb Driven rests is too loose for me. Probably most won’t need more for tree stand use, but I still hunt/stalk from time to time and I just prefer better containment.
It’s a small line of demarcation, but decisions come down to details. Sometimes minutiae.