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Singer 404

Robert Sylvester

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I just picked one up from a thrift store for $25. It came with quite a few attachments and runs when I plugged it in. I haven't sewn anything with it but I figured I'd give it a shot for that price. I thought it looked pretty clean and didn't see any blatant signs of abuse.

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about this model? What types of projects would it be able to handle? I'm really looking for any feedback I can get. Even if it's "yup, you just wasted $25."

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Luckily Singer is a larger company with a larger following so info on their machines are typically found somewhere with a little digging if needed. I’d safely assume your not going over 92 thread on it and other than that just check out resources for needle to thread and needle to material types and information. Dial in your stitch quality while changing fabrics or amount of fabric layers when needed for best looking and performing results and then just figure out what works and doesn’t work. Different speeds and stitches and stitch length and thread type and thread direction. Some machines are pickier than others with thread direction. (Some threads are made to be fed from the top of the spool others are meant to be fed from coming off the side of the spool) imagine the larger cone thread grab the loose thread and pull it straight up, imagine a small spool of Coats and Clark thread standing straight and grab the loose end and pull it parallel to top of table. Some people disregard details like this, I don’t, personally. Just because you don’t have a larger industrial machine doesn’t mean you shouldn’t strive for professional looking results. you’ll be limited to what you can do for sure depending on what you want to do, but always strive for the best and figure out how to make it perform and look the best. Every machine is made for something different, so just because you don’t have a $2k machine doesn’t mean you can’t make good quality items- just as it doesn’t mean a $2k machine can’t make poor quality items. Sewing isn’t typically a shortcut for many things, it’s a way to provide you a chance to make and/ or alter whatever you can think of. It also has a relatively high price for entry, buying fabric, webbing binding, hardware, thread, hook and loop, etc. Others tend to factor in their time as well- I don’t, most people who say it costs less to just buy what is made will gladly sit on their couch and watch tv a few hours a night. I prefer to design and plan and make my templates and patterns instead, so it’s not wasted time or time I should be paid for. It’s for me. But just as any tool it’s limited by your knowledge and desire. What you put into it is what you get out of it. But I hope you enjoy it and best of luck!
 
I have a 404. It works fine. I don't know the limit on thread size but size V69 should work fine.

 
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You got one of the "new" post world war slanted models circa 1951-ish. I think its slanted at 9 degrees away from the sewer to help you see what you sew better. I have a 301 which is pretty much the same machine but with slight differences in the bobbin style and configuration. I have only sewed heavy materials with a denim needle and upholstery thread. I can sew through two layers of webbing without a problem. Just adjust the presser foot up to sit snuggly on the thicker layers of webbing.

If you don't like it I would take it off your hands so it could hang out with its cousin...;)
 
Depending on how much experience you have in general with sewing machines, I’d recommend going to a store or other place where you can learn the basics of sewing machines. A Singer store is even better.
My personal experience with sewing machines was watching my grandmother and mother sewing. YouTube didn’t cut it for me. So I went to the little sewing shop in town and asked. For 25 dollars, she took an hour of her time and showed me more than I’d have learned from watching YouTube for hours… she didn’t show me making patterns , cutting or designing. Just the mechanics of the machines and tricks to overcome obstacles. Good luck! Nice looking machine.
 
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