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Stick aiders

Chris.Bartolotta

Chris.Bartolotta

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So I got some really sweet ultra lite sticks from DanO and was planing on using 6’ daisy chain webbing as aiders. What are some of the ways you guys are attaching them to the stick or just making movable aiders? Would love a little of feedback on the subject to get some ideas of how I’m gonna go about it. Please post pics and explanation of knots you’re tying or if you stitched them together.


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i just use tubular webbing tied in a loop as a carry as you go aider. i tied an overhand knot with 5 or 6 inch tag ends. my loop is long enough to give me about a 22 inch step onto my stick.
 
backstrap19 said:
i just use tubular webbing tied in a loop as a carry as you go aider. i tied an overhand knot with 5 or 6 inch tag ends. my loop is long enough to give me about a 22 inch step onto my stick.
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How long was the webbing before you tied it into a loop? Do you loop it over the top of your sticks as you climb up?


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Whats the best way to configure an aider for a cut helium with cam cleat for 1 stick method? Seems that now that its cut, an aider will make it prone to kicking out.


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Personally i dont like moveable aiders. What happens if you drop it from the platform? What happens if you accidentally incapacitate one of your hands....ar you going to be able to manipulate the aider and make your way down. I prefer a single fixed aider on each stick. Just girth hitch it around the stick above the bottom step & stand off.
 
hickstick said:
Personally i dont like moveable aiders. What happens if you drop it from the platform? What happens if you accidentally incapacitate one of your hands....ar you going to be able to manipulate the aider and make your way down. I prefer a single fixed aider on each stick. Just girth hitch it around the stick above the bottom step & stand off.
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I have my aider attached so it can't be dropped... .if you mangle your hand your going to have difficulty with any climbing...... I'm not an engineers or studied up on physics but in my experience with using aiders on climbing sticks if you attach your aider on the top step or standoff above the button it increases stability and less chance of kick out.
 
Chris.Bartolotta said:
So I got some really sweet ultra lite sticks from DanO and was planing on using 6’ daisy chain webbing as aiders. What are some of the ways you guys are attaching them to the stick or just making movable aiders? Would love a little of feedback on the subject to get some ideas of how I’m gonna go about it. Please post pics and explanation of knots you’re tying or if you stitched them together.


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I am using a versa strap which is similar. I girth hitch it around my right foot (I have a system for consistency). I then sized up the appropriate loop to add a caribeaner (wrapped with alot of hockey tape to quiet). This caribeaner goes on my top double step. The shock cord attaches to my pack with a mini caribeaner so I dont loose my aider. Also if concerned with the larger caribeaner freely swinging as you hang additional sticks, simply clip it to your linemans belt. So far this is working great for me. I did not come up with this myself---these were ideas that others posted forged into one.

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Weldabeast said:
I have my aider attached so it can't be dropped... .if you mangle your hand your going to have difficulty with any climbing...... I'm not an engineers or studied up on physics but in my experience with using aiders on climbing sticks if you attach your aider on the top step or standoff above the button it increases stability and less chance of kick out.
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guess I'm not understanding....how do you have that aider attached to you so it can't be dropped? do you clip it to yourself before moving it to your next stick?

I've been using my fixed single step aider on my three step stick for close to a decade now and never had a step kick out. I think if you attach them correctly on the best part of the tree available (ie if the tree is not perfectly round in circumference, make sure you have all 4 legs of the stand offs flat against the tree before weighting it...)
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Weldabeast said:
I have a 4-5ft paracord with a little prusik on the aider that is either clipped to my saddle or backpack.
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ah...perfect. now it makes sense.

I tried the movable aiders with Stepp Ladder steps (girth hitching to the rung of the step) and did not like having to disconnect and reconnect, escpecially on the way down.

In the off season I plan on modifying my leverage steps to 2 step, and was thinking of using a double step aider but again, the concept of moving the aider with me is holding me back.
 
I am not disagreeing with you.... I had fixed loop steps off the bottom of the stick for a couple seasons also.... Just giving another option for people reading along trying to learn. ....in your offseason tinkering try attaching to the top step.....it may work out
 
I made a 2 step aider that worked great by hanging it from my middle step of my hawk helium. I cut one down with a cleat for 1 sticking but it seems to want to kick out more now that its shorter. I hate to tie into the bottom step due to leverage. Im receiving a webbing wheel today and will play around with it on my short stick. Im thinking I will just do a 1 step for the 1/S method


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hickstick said:
guess I'm not understanding....how do you have that aider attached to you so it can't be dropped? do you clip it to yourself before moving it to your next stick?

I've been using my fixed single step aider on my three step stick for close to a decade now and never had a step kick out. I think if you attach them correctly on the best part of the tree available (ie if the tree is not perfectly round in circumference, make sure you have all 4 legs of the stand offs flat against the tree before weighting it...)
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Just seeing this, but this is what I made this weekend to try out. From looking at your picture I believe I am using the exact same webbing as well. The only (avoidable) issue I had was that I hooked my bow to my pull up chord on the wrong end and ended up catching the aider with my arrows on my quiver haha. After a little fishing I was able to get it untangled without getting down. Other than that, it worked well. I currently only have one on the bottom sick. Did you say you use one of theses on each stick?
 
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Just seeing this, but this is what I made this weekend to try out. From looking at your picture I believe I am using the exact same webbing as well. The only (avoidable) issue I had was that I hooked my bow to my pull up chord on the wrong end and ended up catching the aider with my arrows on my quiver haha. After a little fishing I was able to get it untangled without getting down. Other than that, it worked well. I currently only have one on the bottom sick. Did you say you use one of theses on each stick?
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yes. separate aiders fixed to each stick. I always make sure I put my pack and bow off to the side (generally to the right of where I'm expecting my platform to be so I as I pull up the haul line, my pack goes right on the waiting 'biner on my daisy chain on the right side of the tree (I'm a righty), then pass my bow over the bridge to the waiting hero clip on my daisy chain on the left side of the tree.

Oh and @Aeds151 , if you shorten a stick, you need to move the versa button or attachment point up to prevent kickouts. and if the you use a single step aider it will pull straight down (perpendicular to the attachment angle) as opposed to the pre-sewn 2 step aiders made for rock climbing. since with those you have no choice but to load weight to the the tangent to the centerline, they have a natural inclination to want to 'center' themselves, leading to kick outs.
 
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hickstick said:
yes. separate aiders fixed to each stick. I always make sure I put my pack and bow off to the side (generally to the right of where I'm expecting my platform to be so I as I pull up the haul line, my pack goes right on the waiting 'biner on my daisy chain on the right side of the tree (I'm a righty), then pass my bow over the bridge to the waiting hero clip on my daisy chain on the left side of the tree.

Oh and @Aeds151 , if you shorten a stick, you need to move the versa button or attachment point up to prevent kickouts. and if the you use a single step aider it will pull straight down (perpendicular to the attachment angle) as opposed to the pre-sewn 2 step aiders made for rock climbing. since with those you have no choice but to load weight to the the tangent to the centerline, they have a natural inclination to want to 'center' themselves, leading to kick outs.
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How are you tying your webbing together?
 
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