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Can this be done pretty quietly? I've watched some videos on using them and it seems they would make a lot of noise. Looks like a great way to climb with the saddle I'd love to try it!
 
It can be done with less noise than a climber. If you have good Spurs and don't do a lot of jabbing when you kick in, it can be done very quietly
 
Ok thanks for the help. I'll probably buy some around the first year that way I have a long time to get used to them.
 
flinginairos said:
Can this be done pretty quietly? I've watched some videos on using them and it seems they would make a lot of noise. Looks like a great way to climb with the saddle I'd love to try it!

Flingin for you I would make a video lol


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huck72412 said:
It can be done with less noise than a climber. If you have good Spurs and don't do a lot of jabbing when you kick in, it can be done very quietly

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Blinginpse said:
flinginairos said:
Can this be done pretty quietly? I've watched some videos on using them and it seems they would make a lot of noise. Looks like a great way to climb with the saddle I'd love to try it!

Flingin for you I would make a video lol


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Haha get it done I wanna see!


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I'm a lineman by trade so I'll put in my 2cents. Can't go wrong with bashing aluminum gaffs. I use the thick padded speed velcro style at work but as I'm adapting to using them for hunting if your going to remove them when you get to the top stay away from the velcro ( extremely noisy to remove). There are plenty that buckle. Also stay away from t- pads those things are very uncomfortable. A good c-pad with a buckle would be a great choice. If your not going to remove them then I like the Buckingham speed velcro pads. I've stood hours on a pole and still been comfortable. I will say you may want to consider a boot with a stiffer sole if your going to climb alot. A good choice for rubber boots is the muck chores I've climbed in them plenty and they are kind to your feet.
 
I was a professional tree climber for years and here is my two cents. First of all make sure your boots have a heel and a solid sole. this will keep the spur in place on your boot and minimize fatigue under your feet.

I use a three point linemans flip line for climbing. Even when using sticks. It is a long piece of rope with a caribiner on each end. then in the middle I have a Prussik with a third caribiner. I keep the prusic caribiner always attached to my harness/saddle. I then adjust the rope to be the size needed to climb the tree with one carabiner and leave the other one loose. When i get to a branch, I can take the loose carabiner and wrap around the tree above the branch and attach it to my harness. Then I disconnect the first carabiner and adjust the slack. this allows me to climb around branches without ever disconnecting my linemans rope. then I go one step further and actually use my linesman rope as my tether when I get to the top of the tree. I attach the prusik biner to my bridge, use one end of the rope for my tether and the other one as a backup.

For me the hardest part about using spurs was always coming back down. As a tree trimmer, we always rappelled down using a dual rope method and blakes hitch. I have found that climbing up with spurs is much easier than down. I was always more prone to gaff out or have problems on the way down. Especially on hard wood trees.

So I started carrying a long section of rope with me to each tree but it became alot of work to carry the gaffs and atleast 60 feet of rope. (I tend to hunt 30 feet up)

I have recently started to play around with SRT method using a hand ascender, foot loop, and a Grigri 2 belay. This allows me to get down with alot less rope, I bought some 9.5mm static line that is alot easier to carry than the much larger (it was a 3/4 arborist rope) rope i was carrying before. My plan is to take my gaffs with me for a new tree, but leave paracord in the tree for future use.
 
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Erniepower said:
I was a professional tree climber for years and here is my two cents. First of all make sure your boots have a heel and a solid sole. this will keep the spur in place on your boot and minimize fatigue under your feet.

I use a three point linemans flip line for climbing. Even when using sticks. It is a long piece of rope with a caribiner on each end. then in the middle I have a Prussik with a third caribiner. I keep the prusic caribiner always attached to my harness/saddle. I then adjust the rope to be the size needed to climb the tree with one carabiner and leave the other one loose. When i get to a branch, I can take the loose carabiner and wrap around the tree above the branch and attach it to my harness. Then I disconnect the first carabiner and adjust the slack. this allows me to climb around branches without ever disconnecting my linemans rope. then I go one step further and actually use my linesman rope as my tether when I get to the top of the tree. I attach the prusik biner to my bridge, use one end of the rope for my tether and the other one as a backup.

For me the hardest part about using spurs was always coming back down. As a tree trimmer, we always rappelled down using a dual rope method and blakes hitch. I have found that climbing up with spurs is much easier than down. I was always more prone to gaff out or have problems on the way down. Especially on hard wood trees.

So I started carrying a long section of rope with me to each tree but it became alot of work to carry the gaffs and atleast 60 feet of rope. (I tend to hunt 30 feet up)

I have recently started to play around with SRT method using a hand ascender, foot loop, and a Grigri 2 belay. This allows me to get down with alot less rope, I bought some 9.5mm static line that is alot easier to carry than the much larger (it was a 3/4 arborist rope) rope i was carrying before. My plan is to take my gaffs with me for a new tree, but leave paracord in the tree for future use.
That's the way I've been trying to climb/descend this year. Spur up, then grigri2 down. On my property, I'll even leave the rope if I'm coming back to that tree soon. Otherwise, paracord. Even then, though, some times the paracord or rope gets hung up on something while trying to pull rope in or out of tree. Sometimes that means that the next time I use that tree, I'll climb with the SRT

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I may have a solution for that. I now work in telecomunications and i have a product we use to pull cable through duct without getting snagged. Basically it is a long flexible chinese finger with a loop on one end. I plan on putting it on the end of the rope and then adding a piece of heatshrink to keep it from coming off when pulled in reverse. I will try and take some pictures tonight. I don't know when I will get a chance to try it in a tree however.

Best thing about this solution is it is super cheap and will work on cables anywhere in the range we are using.
 
Here is a quick mock up. I think it could be cleaner but you get the idea. Since you are pulling on the sock which centered on the rope and tapered a bit, it should slide through the branch fork easier.

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Here is a quick mock up. I think it could be cleaner but you get the idea. Since you are pulling on the sock which centered on the rope and tapered a bit, it should slide through the branch fork easier.

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Erniepower said:
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Wire loom. We use it a lot where I work as well. Would work pretty good I think. I had the same idea for the "flip line" i'm making to go with my spurs. Have you tried it on a tree yet?
 
Not yet. Honestly, I had to come up with some ideas for my Christmas list so I didn't buy my ascenders yet. Letting family get them for me. I will do more playing after the holidays. Trying to learn how to splice kernmantel rope to put an eye in my rope. Can't seen to find a splicing service locally.

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That and I've been eyeing some carbon fiber spurs to replace my old heavy Buckinghams.

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Erniepower said:
That and I've been eyeing some carbon fiber spurs to replace my old heavy Buckinghams.

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Nice. I ordered a set of ClimbRight aluminums excited to try them out!
 
Erniepower said:
I was a professional tree climber for years and here is my two cents. First of all make sure your boots have a heel and a solid sole. this will keep the spur in place on your boot and minimize fatigue under your feet.

I use a three point linemans flip line for climbing. Even when using sticks. It is a long piece of rope with a caribiner on each end. then in the middle I have a Prussik with a third caribiner. I keep the prusic caribiner always attached to my harness/saddle. I then adjust the rope to be the size needed to climb the tree with one carabiner and leave the other one loose. When i get to a branch, I can take the loose carabiner and wrap around the tree above the branch and attach it to my harness. Then I disconnect the first carabiner and adjust the slack. this allows me to climb around branches without ever disconnecting my linemans rope. then I go one step further and actually use my linesman rope as my tether when I get to the top of the tree. I attach the prusik biner to my bridge, use one end of the rope for my tether and the other one as a backup.

For me the hardest part about using spurs was always coming back down. As a tree trimmer, we always rappelled down using a dual rope method and blakes hitch. I have found that climbing up with spurs is much easier than down. I was always more prone to gaff out or have problems on the way down. Especially on hard wood trees.

So I started carrying a long section of rope with me to each tree but it became alot of work to carry the gaffs and atleast 60 feet of rope. (I tend to hunt 30 feet up)

I have recently started to play around with SRT method using a hand ascender, foot loop, and a Grigri 2 belay. This allows me to get down with alot less rope, I bought some 9.5mm static line that is alot easier to carry than the much larger (it was a 3/4 arborist rope) rope i was carrying before. My plan is to take my gaffs with me for a new tree, but leave paracord in the tree for future use.

I cannot get my head around the three point linemans flip line. Can you point me to a video or some documentation so I can fully understand how to safely use it?
 
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