You should give the sumpter a look, its a slightly larger cays with a light frameI have their CAYS 2.0, that I tried to carry sticks and a platform, which kind of sucked. The pockets are great and it’s quiet. But it has no frame, only a frame sheet. I know why companies pump out cheap frameless backpacks, because they’re cheap to make. But there is a world of difference in carrying 10-15 lbs of gear any distance in a framed vs unframed backpack.