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victory or goldtip

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jaberryhunter

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i need some advice. im looking to do a mid weight arrow build. should i go with victory rip 300 spine which is 8.8gpi or goldtip hunter xt's 300 spine which is 9.3gpi? victories are a .204 id, gt is a .246 id. also i am working with a budget and those two are right in it. im shooting 70lbs, 28 inch draw. looking at 100g insert and a 125g head. thanks every one.
 
I think they will both do what you want. I went with Victory RIP TKO 250s because of the low gpi which allows for higher FOC with the same weight components. What diameter are your current arrows? Will you need a new quiver?
 
I’ve been shooting gold tip kinetic pierce platinums for the last year and have been very happy with them. I’m shooting 340 spine. They are micro diameter with an inner diameter of 0.165. Using the deep six insert system from Iron Will and their 150 grain broadheads. So...250 grains up front; total arrow weight of 525; about 17% FOC. Out of a 70 lb Hoyt at 28.5 DL, they’re clocking at 265 FPS.
 
ckprax said:
I think they will both do what you want. I went with Victory RIP TKO 250s because of the low gpi which allows for higher FOC with the same weight components. What diameter are your current arrows? Will you need a new quiver?
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current setup is axis 5mm. they are just a heavy arrow though. for many years before were all gt hunter xt's
 
St.CroixArcher said:
The victory set up is exactly what I’m running right now and I’m also 70# and 28” draw. I really like the setup. Shoots bullet holes for me. You get more foc with the lighter gpi.
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if you dont me asking what insert/collar setup are you using?
 
I just ruined a new 1/2 dozen victories with the insert/collar set up by ethics. I went by the arrow shaft selector and it called for a 203/.204 insert with a .262 collar. Had to sand alot off and made the tips very thin. Split 3 out of the 1/2 dozen. Was so ticked off. Never even shot them yet. So that is why I'm now asking what people's opinion is between victory and gold tip.
 
Gold Tip arrows are famously tough as nails and offer nice components. I shot 400 spine ultralights for years and they routinely survived misses on 3D courses (glancing off rocks, embedding in trees) and went through deer and never broke. I've only had 4 break ever (that I can remember, besides robin hoods before I switched to pin nocks): 1 spine shot, follow up to first spine shot where arrow pinned deer to the ground and the deer rolled on arrow (so broke 2 in one day), skull shot (don't ask), and once my target fell over at an angle and one arrow cut another in half because I was too lazy to go set my target upright/pull arrow. I shot 340 spine ultralights for 2 years with zero breakages.

I have Gold Tips for my recurve that are 15 years old and fine.

I'll be moving to 340 spine hunters this year, and expect those to be tougher than cockroaches.

EDIT: Just saw your other comment. Gold Tip offers all sorts of factory heavy inserts and also weights that screw into the back of the inserts to add weight. I think you could make a nice arrow without all those mods and only using factory components.
 
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Been shooting GT for 5 yr.
Never had a problem, they are tough.
Shoot some victory for target
This is one of those decisions you are going to have to make but I would vote GT hunter.only because they have killed several deer and still in the quiver. Good luck on your Journey.
 
I prefer to stick with standard diameter arrows for ease of components. With that said, I'm shooting GT Hunter XT 300 spine with 100 grain GT inserts and 100 grain head for a total of 507 grains give or take
 
Nimbus1376 said:
I’ve been shooting gold tip kinetic pierce platinums for the last year and have been very happy with them. I’m shooting 340 spine. They are micro diameter with an inner diameter of 0.165. Using the deep six insert system from Iron Will and their 150 grain broadheads. So...250 grains up front; total arrow weight of 525; about 17% FOC. Out of a 70 lb Hoyt at 28.5 DL, they’re clocking at 265 FPS.
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Arrow flight is good? It seems you are very close to underspined with 250 grains up front.
 
I use to shoot the gt hunter xt's. Went with axis.i really like the 5mm diameter shafts. Hell, I'm even now looking at black eagle rampages. Some say they are and some say they are weak. Ugh.. lol
 
raisins said:
Gold Tip arrows are famously tough as nails and offer nice components. I shot 400 spine ultralights for years and they routinely survived misses on 3D courses (glancing off rocks, embedding in trees) and went through deer and never broke. I've only had 4 break ever (that I can remember, besides robin hoods before I switched to pin nocks): 1 spine shot, follow up to first spine shot where arrow pinned deer to the ground and the deer rolled on arrow (so broke 2 in one day), skull shot (don't ask), and once my target fell over at an angle and one arrow cut another in half because I was too lazy to go set my target upright/pull arrow. I shot 340 spine ultralights for 2 years with zero breakages.

I have Gold Tips for my recurve that are 15 years old and fine.

I'll be moving to 340 spine hunters this year, and expect those to be tougher than cockroaches.

EDIT: Just saw your other comment. Gold Tip offers all sorts of factory heavy inserts and also weights that screw into the back of the inserts to add weight. I think you could make a nice arrow without all those mods and only using factory components.
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I think Victory makes high quality arrows that will flat out shoot, but have to say my experience with Gold Tip reflects the above post.

I have never had a Gold Tip Hunter XT break. I shot Beeman Black Max for awhile and really liked them, but they were breaking often on clean kills. I went back to my Gold Tips and never had that issue, so I’ve stuck with them.

I always assumed the disparity was due to the difference in standard vs micro arrow shaft diameters, IDK.

Nevertheless, GT survived a few shots where I’d expect breakage, and I have to feel that helped me get those animals, so I have no problem recommending them.

But I don’t think there is a wrong answer here.
 
Bowmanmike said:
Arrow flight is good? It seems you are very close to underspined with 250 grains up front.
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It is close. When I first constructed my build I was shooting about 62-63 lbs draw weight and the spine was optimal. I got a new bow and was able to increase my draw weight to 70 lbs which made the setup slightly underspined. They fly and group well at my current DW but I am probably going to back it down to 65ish for now. I’ll transition over to 300 spine with the same components for my next build and go back up on my DW at that time . I just can’t justify the cost right now.
 
Nimbus1376 said:
It is close. When I first constructed my build I was shooting about 62-63 lbs draw weight and the spine was optimal. I got a new bow and was able to increase my draw weight to 70 lbs which made the setup slightly underspined. They fly and group well at my current DW but I am probably going to back it down to 65ish for now. I’ll transition over to 300 spine with the same components for my next build and go back up on my DW at that time . I just can’t justify the cost right now.
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I have a question regarding this. When I built my victory rip arrows my intent was to put 250 up front 100 insert and 150 head but I couldn’t get the 150s to bullet hole unless I went down to 65 pound draw instead of 70. So my question is what is better 65# with 250 up front or 70# with 225.
 
Plebe said:
I think Victory makes high quality arrows that will flat out shoot, but have to say my experience with Gold Tip reflects the above post.

I have never had a Gold Tip Hunter XT break. I shot Beeman Black Max for awhile and really liked them, but they were breaking often on clean kills. I went back to my Gold Tips and never had that issue, so I’ve stuck with them.

I always assumed the disparity was due to the difference in standard vs micro arrow shaft diameters, IDK.

Nevertheless, GT survived a few shots where I’d expect breakage, and I have to feel that helped me get those animals, so I have no problem recommending them.

But I don’t think there is a wrong answer here.
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