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What 5 step aider brand model

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ChetterB

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I have 4 wild edge steps and would like to try the 5 step aider method of climbing. Which 5 step aider works the best and where can I buy it please, thanks.
 
I have a 4 step Metolis that I really like Not sure if they make a 5 step. Someone on here said they had a Black Diamond brand 5 step that they were using.
 
Bwhana said:
I have the 5 step Kailas that G2 recommended in his video.
https://www.amazon.com/KAILAS-Aider...step+aider&dpPl=1&dpID=312cNncyiNL&ref=plSrch

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I have the same aider and have had zero issues with it. Packs up perfectly in the bottom of the WE bag along with 4 steps, and I can get to over 30 ft with 4 steps and the aider. I don't use the knaider I made, I found it easier with just the 5 step aider. Its a great climbing system.
 
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i like black diamond personally it seems to be the stiffest and stays open good. it may not be a big deal until the layers and winter boots come
 
I use the black diamond five step also. I would stay away from any labeled as alpine aiders. They are lighter but not as user friendly.
 
I have the BD and the kailas

The BD is better IMO


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rutjr said:
I have the same one, same reason G2. At first I thought it was dainty but it works nicely and packs away nicely. I have no issues using it I like using it on my Lone Wolf sticks.
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It felt a little sketchy the first few times I tried it, but like most things, it has been better each time and I plan to stick with it now. This is not a method to try without practicing.

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dpennington said:
Can you provide specifics as to why you prefer the BD? Do they both work well?


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Takes a larger boot and stays open better but packs up poorly


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Correspondence with Carl @ckossuth regarding the possibility of making an custom etrier (aider) may be right around the corner. He has been brain-storming and collecting ideas to put together an etrier specifically for tree-climbing hunters, (not for rock climbers in small agile footwear). My take on it is that if Carl is making an etrier; that's the one I want. He's a master of design and craftsmanship, as evidenced by his work on the Mantis and his latest creation, the "One and Done" Versa Strap and Versa-Lite straps.
Go Carl,... go Carl,...go Carl....
 
BRAVEHEART said:
Correspondence with Carl @ckossuth regarding the possibility of making an custom etrier (aider) may be right around the corner. He has been brain-storming and collecting ideas to put together an etrier specifically for tree-climbing hunters, (not for rock climbers in small agile footwear). My take on it is that if Carl is making an etrier; that's the one I want. He's a master of design and craftsmanship, as evidenced by his work on the Mantis and his latest creation, the "One and Done" Versa Strap and Versa-Lite straps.
Go Carl,... go Carl,...go Carl....
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BRAVEHEART said:
Correspondence with Carl @ckossuth regarding the possibility of making an custom etrier (aider) may be right around the corner. He has been brain-storming and collecting ideas to put together an etrier specifically for tree-climbing hunters, (not for rock climbers in small agile footwear). My take on it is that if Carl is making an etrier; that's the one I want. He's a master of design and craftsmanship, as evidenced by his work on the Mantis and his latest creation, the "One and Done" Versa Strap and Versa-Lite straps.
Go Carl,... go Carl,...go Carl....
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I’ll second that!
 
In the evolution of 4/5 step aiders have opinions changed since January? I am considering trying the multi-step aider in my climbing system. Any new products or options?
 
I’ve got a couple of the CMI 5 step that I really like using in combination with WE steps. I keep one in my pack as insurance in case I drop the main one which is CAYG.
 
I’ve changed my system. I’m using the lone wolf hand climber seat. The five step aider is small enough that I’ll keep it in my pack just in case I need it.


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I used the Kailas also for the second half of last season. Great with practice but very small diameter trees will result in kickout. Need to be able to plant toe solidly to use effectively. I am going to continue use it, 3 steps and 21 feet, love it.
 
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