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Who has concerns about feeding wild game to their families?
- Thread starter Therm
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Why not just start with that in the first place?
Found several news articles referencing the unpublished study (e.g. https://www.wisfarmer.com/story/new...-concerns-human-susceptibility-cwd/435656001/ and https://apnews.com/article/d78a839756084ed396bd15fd051add96). However, they are all several years old and indicate that the study should have been completed by now.
I can't find any indication that the final results of the study were ever published. However, I can't find any information as to why. As such, I don't know what weight to give the information.
I can't find any indication that the final results of the study were ever published. However, I can't find any information as to why. As such, I don't know what weight to give the information.
CWD isn't in my thoughts at all in my area. If the elk pen or whitetail deer pen was still around then I'd start worrying about it. CWD is spreading mostly from penned animals. That's why a lot of these pens are shutting down to getting shutdown as gov agencies are tightening rules.
Shakeandbake
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I avoid cutting the spinal cord, no neck roast for me.
Pressure cooker for an hour will kill parasites and tenderize the meat but will probably not eliminate CWD. Add carrots, celery, potatoes, onions, etc, for the last 15 minutes for a great stew. I would not hunt in a CWD area to eat.
We don't even have a lyme vax at the moment and think of how many more people are directly affected by that.
I'll preface this by saying I'm not by any means a conspiracy theorist. But the scary thing about prion diseases (big if), if they truly are transmissible at minute quantities, you wouldn't even need to eat infected meat. Prions can persist for years and years. CWD deer eats some soybeans and corn and salivates his prions all over it. That goes to market and down the supply chain. CWD deer pisses in a field and those prions persist in the soil and the future plants take them up. Now the entire food system is at risk. That's all plausible based on theoretical prion studies, and we haven't a clue how prions work with our immune system and such.
That's the absolute worst case scenario and I highly doubt it it can happen but I am professionally trained to assess risk and all that can go wrong. Trust me, if it is that big of a problem you'll know about it a couple generations too late.
The potential problem is much greater than a bunch of rednecks eating game meat. We're just the canaries in the mine.
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Yeah the ones eating my tomato plants got me thinking about that too. Really wish we could figure out the role of the misfolded protein and if it’s actually novel or just something that has always been around and serves an evolutionary purpose. If it’s the latter, still would want to be cautious since we as humans are way beyond anything natural. Mother Nature is definitely looking at ways to get us in check.
You’re right though about the theory. It’s just genuinely scary though I feel like probably due to all the unknown. Everything seems like sorcery until we understand what’s going on. Personally I wonder if deer being so susceptible doesn’t have something to do with how they were almost wiped out and repopulated from a relatively small number of individuals. That’s just an idea though.
Has anyone checked the squirrels?!
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Another thing I've thought about is all the diseases that cross species barriers in mammals. We're all familiar now with not eating undercooked chinese bats or living within a couple airport connections of a lab that has bad intentions, who the heck knows.
What if it works the other way too? We seem to have cornered the evolutionary market on degenerative brain diseases. What if alzheimers, parkinsons, etc. are found to be transmissible prion diseases? I think it is plausible. What if CWD is an offshoot of that, an accidental human created pandoras box? Yikes, that would truly change the world as we know it. I don't think we're as smart as we think we are, but I trust in God's plan.
What if it works the other way too? We seem to have cornered the evolutionary market on degenerative brain diseases. What if alzheimers, parkinsons, etc. are found to be transmissible prion diseases? I think it is plausible. What if CWD is an offshoot of that, an accidental human created pandoras box? Yikes, that would truly change the world as we know it. I don't think we're as smart as we think we are, but I trust in God's plan.
I’m not too concerned about it. Although, if I lived near a CWD area I would probably have the meat tested before I ate any of it. Also, would be more careful about having meat processed by someone else. You have your meat tested, think your good to go, then later find out that your deer weighed 100lbs and the butcher gave you 100 lbs of deer meat, not necessarily “your deer meat”, which you had tested. Lastly, might want to be more careful about how you are “harvesting” your antlers, sawing into the brain as well as separating the head from the spine, and the tools you use to do it.
Prions Are Forever
The lethal proteins are in the Hard-to-Kill Hall of Fame--and may be more common than we realize
It sure is scary to me. If there ever was a case of humans getting something like cjd from deer, it would be one thing that would end my deer hunting for sure. There’s always turkey season and hiking.
Weird thought.
Death is something I can be at peace with. If I were to die in my sleep tonight, my wife would be ok thanks to insurance, savings, and well-maintained family/friend relationships. If we have kids we'll do what we can to make sure that security extends to them.
I'm not remotely worried about any concept of an afterlife. The only thing that keeps me up at night is the idea of having to suffer through something I'd rather not because "life is precious" and "suicide is wrong." I sincerely hope voluntary euthanasia becomes a thing before I'm old.
Death is something I can be at peace with. If I were to die in my sleep tonight, my wife would be ok thanks to insurance, savings, and well-maintained family/friend relationships. If we have kids we'll do what we can to make sure that security extends to them.
I'm not remotely worried about any concept of an afterlife. The only thing that keeps me up at night is the idea of having to suffer through something I'd rather not because "life is precious" and "suicide is wrong." I sincerely hope voluntary euthanasia becomes a thing before I'm old.
It’s the having kids and not having a good fallback support system that makes it have a new meaning. Easy to say “extend the security” harder to accomplish.