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Who has concerns about feeding wild game to their families?

Yeah it’s not so much the obvious effects I am (mildly) concerned about but the innocuous weird effects of these persistent man made chemicals (like *** Teflon!?). Wanting the best for your kids is debilitating when there’s so little real nature left, but life expectancy even now is so much more than for our ancestors so that has to mean something.

Regarding the rapid test, I would say people just need to push for it. Voice opinions and let it be known that we care deeply. I’m not hearing a lot of “doesn’t bother me” and frankly I’m a little surprised but I am new to this forum.
 
Yea, I dont really understand the concern of wild game as compared to commercially processed meat. Ever look inside of one of those chicken houses or drive by a feed lot? Disgusting. Cows standing in sh*t up to their ankles eating GMO corn.

I try not to buy meat at the store if I can help it, although I will definitely have pepperoni/sausage on a pizza or some wings here and there. Would way rather butcher and freeze my own.
 
BTaylor said:
I put in for and drew a tag for a hunt right smack in the middle of our CWD zone and if I kill, it is going to get ate.
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I would get it tested if its in a CWD area. That is me though. I wouldn't take a chance. I've never got one tested but like others have said and I have heard as well it shouldn't be a hassle to get it tested. Where I hunt we haven't had any cases yet thank goodness!
 
Hall17 said:
I would get it tested if its in a CWD area. That is me though. I wouldn't take a chance. I've never got one tested but like others have said and I have heard as well it shouldn't be a hassle to get it tested. Where I hunt we haven't had any cases yet thank goodness!
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It will be tested because you have to take all kills to the on site check station for the permit hunts. I will field quarter and debone leaving the spine in tact while processing to avoid spinal fluid issues but I fully intend to eat what I kill.
 
How many people you know has or had Dementia, now how many you know have had cjd. There is a reason for this, once signs are shown of memory loss it's tagged Dementia and looks no farther There may be more cases of undetected cjd than we think.
 
I would say my concern level is low to mild. As others have said, I am more worried about processed foods (especially meats), which in my case have a direct correlation to something I am at high risk for – colon cancer. We are paying a premium for "organic" chicken, beef, etc that supposedly have no hormones, so aside from CWD testing, I see eating wild game as another source of that "organic" protein. I am careful about where I keep fish from, though. I won't eat fish from certain water sources, which I think are a lot easier to pinpoint as having high levels of pollution.
 
gumby said:
How many people you know has or had Dementia, now how many you know have had cjd. There is a reason for this, once signs are shown of memory loss it's tagged Dementia and looks no farther There may be more cases of undetected cjd than we think.
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This is the sort of thing I’m talking about.
 
sweats said:
I'm facing a similar situation that I think will evolve in the next 5-10 years. In my state, CWD has not been detected in wild deer. However, there is plenty in adjacent states so it's just a matter of time.

To my knowledge there is at least one study that indicated that feeding CWD meat and brain tissue to macaques was able to infect them. I will have to see if I can find the study. This did conflict with a prior similar study.

What I do ultimately will depend on prevalence and available testing. If 1/4 deer in my area have it and I can do a quick field test, I would probably still hunt. Too far off on either of those and I would likely stop deer hunting.

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I went over that study with a microbiology professor I had after I heard Ted Nugent say some odd things about it. From my professors understanding, the macaques were inoculated directly into brain tissue. I'm not here to dissuade caution, a big difference between eating and an injection to the brain. And having furthered my education and reading the study, that is exactly what they did.

"We found that 100% of intracerebrally inoculated and 92% of orally inoculated squirrel monkeys were susceptible, but cynomolgus macaques were not, suggesting possible low risk for humans."

So the macaques did not get infected, squirrel monkeys did. Now I have no clue what that means. But the squirrel monkeys didn't eat the meat, they were inoculated with prions. Sort of like eating the aforementioned ground meat...
 
will4554 said:
I went over that study with a microbiology professor I had after I heard Ted Nugent say some odd things about it. From my professors understanding, the macaques were inoculated directly into brain tissue. I'm not here to dissuade caution, a big difference between eating and an injection to the brain. And having furthered my education and reading the study, that is exactly what they did.

"We found that 100% of intracerebrally inoculated and 92% of orally inoculated squirrel monkeys were susceptible, but cynomolgus macaques were not, suggesting possible low risk for humans."

So the macaques did not get infected, squirrel monkeys did. Now I have no clue what that means. But the squirrel monkeys didn't eat the meat, they were inoculated with prions. Sort of like eating the aforementioned ground meat...
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Your quote directly refers to squirrel monkeys getting infected orally. Inoculated just means that it was done in a controlled, repeatable manner. They got it by mouth.

The Macaques not getting infected is a good thing, but it only takes a bit more mutation to change the score.
 
will4554 said:
I went over that study with a microbiology professor I had after I heard Ted Nugent say some odd things about it. From my professors understanding, the macaques were inoculated directly into brain tissue. I'm not here to dissuade caution, a big difference between eating and an injection to the brain. And having furthered my education and reading the study, that is exactly what they did.

"We found that 100% of intracerebrally inoculated and 92% of orally inoculated squirrel monkeys were susceptible, but cynomolgus macaques were not, suggesting possible low risk for humans."

So the macaques did not get infected, squirrel monkeys did. Now I have no clue what that means. But the squirrel monkeys didn't eat the meat, they were inoculated with prions. Sort of like eating the aforementioned ground meat...
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Like I said. I will have to see if I can find it. From my recollection, this study was with macaques being fed CWD positive meat and different from the study you are referencing.

I also don't know if the study ever actually passed peer review and got published.

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sweats said:
Like I said. I will have to see if I can find it. From my recollection, this study was with macaques being fed CWD positive meat and different from the study you are referencing.

I also don't know if the study ever actually passed peer review and got published.

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The study your referencing I’m almost certain has not been published. Trying to find it in the literature turns up only reference to it and anecdotal reports.
 
sweats said:
Like I said. I will have to see if I can find it. From my recollection, this study was with macaques being fed CWD positive meat and different from the study you are referencing.

I also don't know if the study ever actually passed peer review and got published.

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the quoted study is easy to find
wwwnc.cdc.gov

Chronic Wasting Disease Agents in Nonhuman Primates

CWD Agents in Nonhuman Primates
wwwnc.cdc.gov wwwnc.cdc.gov

they infected the monkeys both orally and via injection (2 different tests groups)
 
Like I said, I'm not trying to keep anyone from taking precautions they're comfortable with. I’ll worry about it when a study can be replicated with cooked meat. Prions denature like any other protein when heat is applied. I’m comfortable eating venison and don’t plan to stop.
 
will4554 said:
Like I said, I'm not trying to keep anyone from taking precautions they're comfortable with. I’ll worry about it when a study can be replicated with cooked meat. Prions denature like any other protein when heat is applied. I’m comfortable eating venison and don’t plan to stop.
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Well you can’t say something like this without backing it up.
The controlled studies show that heated cwd prions remain infectious even when heated to extreme temperatures.
 
will4554 said:
Like I said, I'm not trying to keep anyone from taking precautions they're comfortable with. I’ll worry about it when a study can be replicated with cooked meat. Prions denature like any other protein when heat is applied. I’m comfortable eating venison and don’t plan to stop.
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LOL at cooking having any effect on prions.
 
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